Hey guys, finishing first is just plain "bad etiquette"! As experienced swingers you should know that your are responsible for timing the whole scenario with precision, delaying your exquisitely coordinated simultaneous OOO's with that of the less-experienced couple! Cumming first is a NO-NO!!! This concept applies just as much as in a simple MF scenario, where the male delays orgasm until his partner has one, this is just 'common courtesy', hmm? So, a couple-on-couple situation is much the same, isn't it, the (senior?) hosting couple has to set the pace, the visiting (junior) couple follows along, it's almost like being outdone by your understudy, if anyone actually gets my drift.....................
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wolfman
Over 90 days ago
Straight White/Caucasian Male, 65
Straight White/Caucasian Female, 54
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Have to say, once again, hoping not to offend anyone, that it's not the particular sexual act that's performed, but the ENTHUSIASM with which it's performed, that's important. A mediocre bang is better than a reluctant blowjob, licking clit is no fun when her legs clamp your head, mutual self-pleasure ain't fun when there's only one of us doing it! I'd rather jerk off by myself than take part in a gang-bang where there's tension in the air! In a 1on1 situation, it is up to the dominant personality to create a mutually satisfying experience, irrespective of what activity is on the cards. In a 'more than 2' scenario the dynamic becomes much more complicated, this it what makes swinging such a challenge, not every one's cup of tea, in spite of what they may think ...........
...And yeah, humor apart and in a more constructive vein, I do feel we should start a "SEXTOY REVIEW" thread on this forum for all of those/us that are 'toy-positive', as in exercising our 'social responsibility', enlightening like-minded folks not to waste their money on shit that doesn't deliver what the packaging says, so I'm encouraging all members to buy toys and send them to us, we will test them (free of charge) and post a comprehensive performance report on this site for everyone's benefit! Once the 'evaluation' is completed, we undertake to return said toy to the rightful owner, unless alternative disposal instructions are included with the submission of the device in question! Having designed and constructed numerous "home entertainment devices", we feel that we are in a unique position to evaluate their performance in terms of orgasmic potential, bang for buck,ergonomic convenience, and especially (haveto include this one nowadays) ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT!!! Are you aware that the use of sextoys has a significant impact on GLOBAL WARMING!!!! According to government accredited and verified sources, each and every female orgasm generated by one of those cheap chingchong vibrators injects a whole 4 mJoules of heat into the atmosphere, leading to ozone depletion, etc, we need to be really discerning in terms of what toys we buy, and yesss, we are prepared (freee of charge, no less) to do that evaluation for you, so that your environmental concerns will remain assuaged .........
Hey, that's a step in the right direction, as in sex is supposed to be a fun thing! I do think people in general and those on this site in particular, take it all too seriously, as in if some guy invites you to bang his wife while he watches, and while you enjoy doing so, in the process thereof he momentarily tickles your scrotum, and you pull your 38 from the shoulder holster you're still wearing, point it at his head and assert that your profile does not say "bi-curious", what i'm trying to say is that it seems that we take all of this far too seriously, guess it's an unfortunate bi-product of living in this severely disturbed country of ours........
Sorry dude, I did not mean to be judgemental in any way, you are not arrogant by any means, but you should recognize that whoever sent you that request is severely 'left of base', as in: the moment you get into alternative stuff like this, you WILL be subjected to crazy shit like that, it (as they say) comes with the territory, get it? The only point of my comment was your complete surprise that sites like this are invariably frequented by people who are 'way out there', in spite of the great number of 'normal' & 'really cool' ones, guess you just need to learn to tell the difference.......
Why not just post an ad, guys? It's highly unlikely that you'll get a response unless you get a whole lot more specific than "bi female sub'. Hmmm, before I waste too many words, let me say that BDSM is a lifestyle, not a hobby or an occasional urge, not something you download off the net for instant gratification, blahlahblaaaaaaa...........
Hi there, have to say this, like it or not, this is what makes me tire of this site, 1950 views and not a single comment, not even something irrelevant, not even something written in very bad english, not nothing, nada, diddly-squat, ZERO, it makes me wonder whether there is anybody out there left with a functional organ within their cranium, seems like an "opinion" has gone the way of the Dodo, it is extinct, deceased, gone, history, never to be found no more.........
Went a couple of years ago, actually not too bad if you're particular about the toys you like, it's like having all the sex-shop franchises condensed into a "sex-mall", if you're looking for something special you'll most likely find it there. Suppose it's good to see what's out here in terms of toys, everything seems to be double the normal (sex shop) price though. Isn't it bizarre that a pair of fishnet stockings that you would pay 50 bucks for at Woollies cost R150 in a sexshop and R200 at Sexpo, guess you pay for the image, hmm? On the other hand, and in a funnier vein, we found just what we were looking for the last time we went to the show, a tiny dick no bigger than my thumb, I was building a fucking machine for the missus and she had a problem with every attachment I came up with, that's HUGE she said, no amount of insistence that it was far smaller than my dick helped, so yes, Sexpo is worth attending..........
Guess there are two aspects to this, and they apply to both the male and the female psyche: we are all voyeurs at heart, we are all turned on by watching, visuals make the greatest impression (hence the popularity of porn). Secondly, being 'removed from the action' frees the mind from any responsibility for the partner's pleasure, etc, and allows the observing mind to take in much more of the erotic stimuli created by this scenario than it would if you were an active participant, .....make sense? .......
Have to say something, guess I'm in shock, always thought of Lee as a 'cornerstone' of this site, one of the few I would like to have met, thanks for being who you are, thanks for the gift of enlightenment and reason, life goes on but you will not be forgotten, you shall reap the beauty you have sowed, live well ...........
Hey Mrs Tanners, ever heard of Kegels = PC muscle exercise, doing those should make it easy to "pinch the stream", along with a host of other benefits such as a tighter pussy and enhanced orgasms, easy to do in the office or while stuck in traffic ..... oh shit you're in Mpuma, no traffic jams there ......
Yess, love DIY, always horny in the morny, Gobblingirl's too busy feeding mutts & shit to bend over, I'm lying in bed enthusiastically strokin' my poker when her sexyness exits the shower so I invite her to do the honours, she seems to love it, I think because she gets to see me squirm and moan without having to do the hard work, I think she has a little sadistic streak in her, she keeps going even after I've shot a load just to see me flinch, guess it's her revenge for me holding her down and licking her broken .......
As Mr Shycouple's story illustrates, most fetishes have their roots in the sexual awakening we experience in our formative childhood years. Much like some newborn animals accept the first creature they see as their mother, we imprint these early turn-ons and generally keep them for life, although we are mostly unaware of their origins.
It would seem that the foot fetish was prevalent among men of past generations due to the conservative dress code imposed on women in those days, which left mainly the feet as the most visually accessible part of her anatomy, and thus formed the focus of many a young male's fantasies.
This would explain why you have trouble finding a foot-worshipper nowadays, PiB, you may need to visit a retirement home, look for guys in wheelchairs complaining about a bad back, heehee!
Also, a lot of women, whether they admit it or not, are turned on by spanking. This has its roots in early experiences of arousal while being spanked by their father, the first male in their life. Probably also imprints the sex=naughty connection in the female mind. However I am sure this is also a dying trend due to the current political incorrectness of child discipline!
Lee, I am sure you found the origins of hubby's voyeuristic predilection in some childhood event where he got to watch some adults having fun, I know this is where I got mine!
In general, we tend to underestimate the importance of the experiences of our formative years, and life and society encourages us in trivializing them. They make us what we are, what we like and dislike, and what turns us on, and it's only called a fetish when society in general finds it weird or unacceptable, like the man who could only become aroused while insects crawled all over his body. As a child during his first self-pleasuring experience, ants had crawled all over him as he reached orgasm, and his mind forever tied his pleasure to that sensation.
For anybody seeking more enlightenment on this subject, I highly recommend the book 'The Erotic Mind' by Jack Morin.
So long
In spite of the fact that we are in the 21st century, societal conditioning still prevails, so in general, overtly sexpositive men are considered 'studs', whereas overtly sexpositive women are regarded as 'whores'. To the extent that even in surveys, girls tend to under-estimate their diy frequency and guys tend to over-estimate. This also creates the situation where most men regard diy as a hobby and most women regard their clit as a stress-relief button.
The male only needs simple visual queues, like picturing the hot new girl at work or some pics on the net, to get a hard-on and the desire to 'rub one out', female mental arousal requires more complex fantasies, as evidenced by the fact that erotic fiction readers are almost exclusively women.
Time is a factor, guys can spank their monkey in the time it take to take a dump in the toilet at work, most ladies are slower and require surroundings more conducive to erotic pleasure.
A horny single girl can go down to the local pub and get laid tonite if she's not too fussy, the socially awkward single guy may as well save on petrol, pop in that 'Buttman' dvd and beat himself to sleep.
So that's why men, as claimed by statisticians, solo more than women.
And as to the ins and outs of self-pleasure per se', that's a whole story in itself!
the central scrutinizer
Thanks PiB, I am somewhat of a masochist so I may just try POT! Also, there is an interesting book, 'Come again and again', by Frank Reedstream, a South African no less, which describes a method of achieving multiple orgasms without ejaculation during self-pleasure (hate that m-word). I feel that once this technique, which from my recollection consists mainly of controlled breathing, is learned and mastered during DIY, it should be quite easy to have multiple O's during actual intercourse without having to undergo the kind of torture that PiB has in mind, tho I bet SHE loves doing it to her willing victims! If anyone out there is interested I am willing to summarize his technique here.
the central scrutinizer
While I am not by any means defending Stamina's dissing his lady by stating that sex with her is becoming boring, we need to realize that the male of the species is hard-wired to seek novelty. Even experiments with lab-rats, and observation of bonobo apes (our closest primate genetic ancestors) has shown the following: Presented with a receptive female, the male will bang her a couple of times and then lie back, congratulate himself on a job well done and start thinking of other things besides sex (cricket scores?). He has lost interest! Conventional thinking tends to rationalize this in terms of his energy depletion due to semen expenditure and the requirement for a refractory period but NO! Bring on a DIFFERENT receptive female and the male is quickly ready to jump back into the saddle for another session. Meanwhile, female 1 is just warmed up and is fantasizing about a queue of able males to take her further up towards the peak of the orgasmic mountain. We are all hardwired to be non-monogamous sluts (and I mean that in a sex-positive way).
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