What's an "app"? Unless it sucks my dick enthusiastically I'm not interested ........

So yeeah Redbruce, there's my take on the dogging thing, however I do have some constructive suggestions you may be interested in, as I do believe that the concept could be a whole lot of fun given the right circumstances .......

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OK gentlebull, let me straighten you out on this one, take it as you may. Dogging is something that use to take place (in the old days before the "immigrant crisis") in the UK, Holland, Germany and all over northern Europe, where you could walk in a park without the constant fear of being mugged, robbed, , or worse (can you picture that?). So in the old there days lots of people that got tired of fuckin' on the balcony (you know, the exhibitionists among us) felt it would be cool (and kinda accommodating for the voyeours, just doing our civil duty, you know) to go out into their well-manicured parks and "civic spaces" and get it on there. There's also a vague connection to the late 60's "summer of love" San Francisco scene which those euro-dweebs where trying to emulate. To cut a long story short, it's an outdated concept, 'specially here in SA where you need security guards for your grannie's birthday party!  Try to imagine maintaining a hard-on while keeping your finger on the trigger of your 9mil, anticipating un-invited participants who your partner may not be entirely willing to share her pleasures with ........

3051 and counting ........

No, nothing, no one, zero, nada, zippo avaible here, I wonder why ............

Hi there, 5star endorsement of zodiac's well-reasoned and well-written piece, couldn't have said it better myself. The problem boils down to the fact that the majority of site users see this only in the simplistic light of 'cheating', this is the reason why the world is the mess it is, it's due to the fact that the bulk of humanity is so dumbed down they can only make uninformed "blanket judgements", attitudes they feel strongly about but cannot come up with logical arguments to support. This is the difference between opinion and prejudice! Prejudice is just black and white, no grey at all, opinion consists of every shade of grey, so zodiac don't loose hope, don't feel you need to defend yourself here, realize that there are some of us out here that share your point of view, and just accept the fact that you are part of a really small minority, the thinking people ........

follow me angel, drink of the stream, take me to heaven, walk in a dream .......

Ain't that just life localcouple, within a sea of 'single guys' on this site you can't find ONE, why not advertise for a single girl with titties (as lovely as yours) ...... and you may just find that guy you're looking for, tho he may want you to dress up as his school mistress, and spank him for being naughty, and tie him down and humiliate him, which may just turn out to be a bunch of fun! ..... Sigh, such is life .... but if you keep an open mind who knows what'll transpire, and isn't that what this is all about, venturing forth into the great unknown..........

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Hey there, can see your pro-vlem, she's hot as hell! However I do see a way out of your dilemma, all you need to do is get her full co-operation, see! Very simple, as soon as your dick goes limp she goes into sleep mode, no matter what's happnin', see?! Whether you have a single guy, a couple or a crowd around, this needs to be the prerequisite, the 'bottom line' if you like! Unless your dick is hard, the action stops, simple, isn't it, you just need to make this clear from the get-go, not so? You wanna play with the missus, sure, just make sure I'm happy too, cause I'm the gatekeeper, the guy who opens the door, the facilitator, the director of recreational activities, need I go on? ...........

Hey Dude, why not post an ad and you'll see what the response is like! Something along the lines of: All of you hundreds of Capetown Gangbang Girls are sincerely invited to a free-for-all on Rondebosch Common, just bring along a bag of condoms if you're averse to STDs! Don't be shy now, cause all'us single guys know what you're looking for, dancing in those Seapoint clubs every weekend nite try'na find mister rite, just cut to the chase and beat the race, we got plenty dick waiting just for YOU, right here on the ole common, we know you been here before, (heehee) so we're sure you'all don't need no directions, however the severely blonde ones amongst you may wanna google it ........

So whip my ass and whack my peepee for generalizing .........

Naah SDM, they all know that what I said is fact, wasted too many years in the IT game not to come away with some home-truths.......

OK guys, let's formalize this a little, in the spirit of making ole swinginheavnin a better place for all of us, see?! Maybe the powers that be is payin attenshun an' gonna incorporate this here feature in the grander scheme of things, as in your profile. As in one of those neat little multiple choice tick-box things so beholden to all of us not familiar with the english language. It would go something like this: ........OPENMINDED, and the choices would be something along the following lines:

NOT ... openminded: This would be the domain of all those (mostly single) guys who think that they will hook up with a hottie for some nsa cavortment, or a deprived milf who'se hubby is just not capable or willing to give her that hot rodding she so desperately wants and needs....

JUST ...openminded: Here we have all of our members who specify in minute detail the exact encounter they are after, from tea to drinks to soft to sameroom to 2room(?) to cleanshaven (don't ask me why nobody ever specifies "hairy") etc etc etc etc etc ....... 

VERY .. openminded: Now we're getting somewhere, this may just be the easiest category to define: Anything that involves dicks in pussies is your game, NOT AT ALL BI-CURIOUS though, in spite of the fact that you'd love to watch your missus being fucked by a severely tattooed with an extremely large purple strap-on (and big titties, of course)! You're way beyond the above and too timid for what follows below ......

HIGHLY ...openminded: Let's just say that his is where gender starts taking a back seat (or door, for that matter), when erotic pleasure becomes the focus and egos fade into irrelevance. 3somes become moresomes and all that matters is that everyone is getting off on it, even if it means enthusiastically licking the somewhat weatherbeaten pussy of the lady you recognise as your schoolfriend's mom....

EXTREMELY openminded: Now this one's reserved for the 'graduates' of this site, done all of the above and moved beyond, prostate Os for the guys and gangbangs for the girls, spanking and bondage sessions that last all night, machine sex and even the odd pet (domestic or otherwise) thrown into the mix, you have arrived ......

Many men can't read, .... or write, as in string together a coherent sentence, in fact many of them struggle with tying their shoelaces .....guess that's why they're "SINGLE"! .....Now, before all of them trace my location and hunt me down, in their defence: Growing up here in our "land of plenty", the focus for developing males has always been cars, bikes, guns, rugby, fishing etc, and getting a blowjob from the highschool slut, so: no wonder that interpersonal skills and the comprehension of the intricate and (from a male point of view) illogical female psyche never had a chance in captivating the mind of the average male, and therefore we reap the deleterious benefits of our heritage today .........

Heey, relaax! ... cut them some slack, they're 'software peeple', they've been trained from the get-go that the one and only thing you never do in the game is to fix anything properly! From when they were teeeeny lil programmers wearing teeeny lil digital nappies they were constantly being told that "YOU NEVER FIX NOTHIN WITHOUT FUCKIN SOMETHIN ELSE UPP !!!!!!" Because thats gooood for businesss, see ?! It means we can charge the client not only for the callout to fix the shit he wanted fixed, but also for coming out to "straighten out the consequences" , they call it "collateral damage" in military terms....Now in spite of the fact that there's no mooolah to be made outta swinginheavnin, these admirable software folks natchrally find it hard to circumvent their own long embedded software, so why dontcha rather send bill gates, that jobs guy and IBM some vicious hate-mail, they reeaaly need it ...........(and by no means am I saying that your post constitutes hate mail) ...... 

Hmmm, so I guess the moral of the story is: The more you have to say, the less you're gonna get ?!?

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Yeah, and I think that it was a little Dodo-chiknin' when that happened, and it's now passed away, after many years in a Dodo-geriatric-intensive-care facility, they buried the poor thing in a secret place, lest some of us who may be aware, turn it into a shrine and congregate there, playing weird music and dancing even more weirdly to same, the cops will arrive and arrest us all for causing a public disturbance, we'll all haveto appear in court and explain to His Honour Ntondo Dhlamini that all we were really doing was commemorating the demise of that icon of western civilization, the Dodo-observed GANGBANG........

Aaand, we are now at 2578 views without any further comment, guess there's really no hope for anything remotely resembling DIALOGUE on this site ........

Still assessing and analysing, SDM, right now looks like I'm really way out there in the cold, so to speak........

Thanks Mike, didn't see that box, was looking on the left where it used to be, there are 2 boxes there, dunno what for as they're not 'selectable'....

@SDM, as you know I'm a curious person, especially as it concerns the human psyche, I am interested in what normal people find interesting, helps me assess how far gone I am, you know ..........

Who else thinks that this option should be available, think it used to be there before the "site upgrade"?

Why not make the hole in your front door, like you're charging an entry fee, hahaaaa

Yes guys....., hi Cliff & all, the gloryhole concept is cool, unfortunately most things that are cool in concept are not-so-cool in practice, as illustrated by the above comments! This is something the clubs should pick up on and run with, I would think that within a club environment a 'gloryhole party' could be as much of a winner as what it is a no-go outside of that environment! Unfortunately, it seems that most of the clubs out there are run by people with an over-abundance of greed combined with diminished imagination and complete ignorance of what the market needs, shit that sounds like a analysis of life in general! But, why is this so? I personally do believe that the clubs try their best to provide their patrons with what they want, problem is that those patrons don't really know what they want, they say they just want to have some sexy fun.. oHummm?!? It seems to me an unfortunate but almost logical twist of life that those of us that are quite keen to experience (al)most ANYTHING with (al)most ANYONE (or more than one) are also the ones most INCAPABLE of expressing what it is that they actually want in practice ....... 

Please explain, just for the fun of it, why would bands & rings mean he has a problem? If you think that way, why not just come out and say it: Do you need all that shit to keep your dick up, dude?  ...... is all of that an automatic and currently politically correct conclusion? ..... maybe he just likes it, who are we to judge? You don't know me, you don't know me at all...........

Please explain, just for the fun of it, why would bands & rings mean he has a problem? If you think that way, why not just come out and say it: Do you need all that shit to keep your dick up, dude?  ...... is all of that an automatic and currently politically correct conclusion? ..... maybe he just likes it, who are we to judge? You don't know me, you don't know me at all...........

kickem when they're up, kickem when theyre down, kickem when they're up, kickem when they're down ..........

ok, I get the picture, there'se nobody out there.............

I guess this thread is as good as any out there to air my views, my 'take' on things as they are, in that sexuality has 2 levels, one being the basic "animalistic' instinct, driven by procreation, the urge to multiply, the force that made homo sapiens dominant on this planet, purely physical, genetically encoded, socially disciplined and controlled by the powers of enslavement........ and then there is this other facet, where sexuality is our connection to the divine, to our spirituality, a shortcut to that which transcends the physical, acceptance of the eternal nature of our soul, wherein the true significance of our individual existence lies. I'm not going to carry on about this, I'm just going to quote Pink Floyd: Is there anybody out there? ............

And, have to add this, the determination of "seniority" should be  covered in the pre-get-naked conversation (if such a thing actually exists)' where it's agreed that the 'swingin like 5 years now' couple gets to orchestrate the recreational activities, not leaving it up to the 'just got into this thing' set, and the first-mentioned do feel some responsibility in terms of a 'mutually rewarding experience for all', as opposed to just getting their gonads tickled at the expense of disposable others, guess we all wish that life was not as complicated as it actually is..........