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12 hours ago
Straight White/Caucasian Female, 50
Straight White/Caucasian Male, 53
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Quote by amethyst
Mr Play this topic has come up in the past and will come up in the future thats why im not going to get drawn into it.
You get beautiful and ugly people in each of the human races. You argument that you need to find simebody sexually attractive means that you only find white people attractive?
I find this hard to believe, I'm sure i can find a pic of a non white man to get your wife's pulse racing.

Your first sentence is already moot as you climbed into the topic, just like I did, this happened when you made your first comments/statements.
I did not say anything about not finding anyone unattractive. I did however speak about preferences that have been built up over a number of years.
You do not know me so don't even presume that I am a racist or that this is a race issue, if you did know me then you would know that labeling me a racist is absolutely laughable.
What I strongly believe in though is that everyone has their own preferences and every single person has the right to act on their preferences as they see fit without having a guilt trip laid on them. This
I happen to prefer slender brunettes with small boobs, however a few of the women with the most sex appeal that I have ever had the pleasure of meeting/knowing/having sex with were obese, two were blond, one was a brunette. I have in my life only found one redhead that actually turned me on.
Rather than being offended when people say they are not into inter racial, accept the fact that they say it and don't waste your time by leading you on. It is just the same as say we prefer people in this age group.
Two examples : amethyst, you have excluded gay and bi-men men as well as couples that have bi/gay men in from what you are looking for. By your own logic you are discriminating against them, by my logic your just prefer women and couples where the men are hetrosexual, probably because you don't want to take the chance of a misunderstanding.
fflash : they specifically exclude single men from their profile, that's probably because they know that they are going to be flooded with inane messages from single guys (fflash no offence intended with including your preferences here)
Quote by daretostare04
If your partner promised to keep you happy in the bedroom and now only does it twice a year you or anybody out there cannot blame someone from seeking fun elsewhere its not a affair only NSA fun. I wonder if wondering ladies get treated the same as men that do it without their partners consent and there are plenty or is the discrimination only against men. One more thing my private life is private I don't want to know anything about the private lives of people I meet here its called being discreet and usually NSA fun. Usually a person playing without consent will not try and steal your partner like some singles would. They also well groomed, clean and respect full it is part of their other life style so it those people that think that we are not good for the life style that are loosing out, just my point of view. If I knew then what I knew now I would also be single like l said breaking up with your partner is not always a solution. Ces't la vie.

From the perspective of a couple playing with someone that is playing on the side. The potential complications when the other person's partner finds out are horrific. That is where your private life gets exposed because all your facebook contacts are messaged, all your colleagues, the local noticeboard gets your number on, and so forth. Basically as revenge they go out of their way to contact anyone that you have contact with to spread the news.
Then they decide to patch things up and you are suddenly the couple that lead the straying partner down the wrong path and the fact that the straying partner strayed is laid, squarely at your feet, the fact that straying partner was on a site like this and you never even knew that they existed before meeting them from this site does not even feature in the logic.
If they decide to get divorced all the above happens, and to top it off you get named as the cause for the breakdown of the marriage in court papers. Maybe even called into court to confirm it (if the aggrieved partner is really out for revenge) so you can profess to the world the details of being a swinger, or you can lie and take the risk of being caught perjuring yourself and end up with some jail time.
So do you now understand some (not even all) of the risks involved by playing with someone in a relationship?
Quote by amethyst
You my friend, you need to climb out of your cocoon.
We dont live in a perfect country by any means. however you need to examine where all of this started. My comment was not a broad based one or a political one but one that pertains to swinging.
Im not going to lower mysrlf to get into this because a forum actually lacks the platform for an actual debate.
But the paramedic, fireman analogy hits the nail on the head.

This is a discussion that has been covered a few times elsewhere in the forum.
I'd disagree with you and the analogy is baseless. When the paramedic is bandaging my arm there is no requirement for her to be sexually attractive to me, just as when i'm serving someone at a counter there is no requirement that they find me sexually attractive. To say that its racist is true in some case but definitely not in all of them.
We have been swinging for many years and we follow a narrow band of people that we meet, this is from our past experiences and our preferences at the time. There are way to many people that we would have to meet if we didn't. To be honest at times we would have to meet quite a few new people every single day at times, that is just not practical
Live and let live, if someone's preference doesn't cover you then so what??? There are thousands of fish in this sea. I don't get offended when i see a profile where the woman wants a gym stud rather than the skinny, nerdy, graying, middle aged guy that I am.
[quote="Mike_Pta"]What about us guys who enjoy it but aren't that skilled?[/quo hmmmmmmmm you unskilled????????????? can think of some who would disagree.....how many orgasms to how many women in one eating.................?
Quote by LeeEC
Just curious as to how the like button links your SH profile to your FB profile. My user name and email address to not match FB details - where else does it find a match?

Your browser does the matching.
welcome to the age of google
Quote by 2ForFun
Al I can say to you is "dream on!!" Your Profile is not the kind single girls will respond to.
We have regular parties at our place and after many years in the lifestyle we see single girls asking to join us again and again.
They know they are safe, they know its not a bunch of weirdo's attending, they know they are in control and that's the reason we have more girls attending our parties than men.

Well said. Single women return to where they feel safe and enjoy themselves. To the point where they would spend weekends and be game for an impromptu fourth or whatever person joining for an evening knowing that that person is fine even though they may never have seen or met them.
Great smile now this is incident is why this site works. (Sorry to harp again) Some of the other sites that we have been on over the years they would have done nothing about it, one which was (still is????) a well known sa site. Even though we werent affected Thanks Admins wink lol
Quote by SDMR
As has been previously mentioned the Mod's had a discussion with Admin regarding this. Admin provided an explanation and maintained their decision to implement this change.
Admin has already provided their point of view on the subject, in the forum post "F Like share - what is this"
http://www.swingingheaven.za.com/vPXtvms0xHxEtGUb

there you have it Kitty, Admin has already provided their response to what happened to you.
16 Days before it happened.
Well Kitty pre-empted herself and what could happen. See you called Murphy smile
Quote by Sofistikitty
Site mods must remove it. I go through a straining process of logging out of every single social network site I am on before logging in because of this, with the hope that even if I press by mistake it won't pop up on and page of mine. I do not own a naughty twitter or facebook account and don't want to either. Apologies Sofistikitty. Reading this has made my fear levels increase ten fold.

Just to point out - the mods (assistants) are powerless to remove it, only site admin (the owners) can. The issue was raised by and amongst the mods when it first appeared. Admin felt that there was benefit to the site to have it there. Maybe benefit to the site, but apparently not to individual members!!!!.... as has just been experienced by Sofistikitty :-(
Look, they can keep it on- but not here where it's easy to click it by mistake. I mean if I wanted everyone to know I'm a swinger, I wouldn't have needed an alias and would have put face pics all over my profile. I'm so upset sad we all know that people are not open minded and this lifestyle is frowned upon by many. I am now "out of the closet" and not by choice. This really sucks.
As you say, most people on this and other swinging sites take precautions to ensure that their sexlives stay private, what we do in our bedroom has nothing to do with anyone unless they are directly involved. Some people are totally open about their swinging, if they want to like the site openly on FB or any other media, then let them, but the majority of us want to keep it private.
Quote by Sofistikitty
Site mods must remove it. I go through a straining process of logging out of every single social network site I am on before logging in because of this, with the hope that even if I press by mistake it won't pop up on and page of mine. I do not own a naughty twitter or facebook account and don't want to either. Apologies Sofistikitty. Reading this has made my fear levels increase ten fold.
I have android, so everything os linked. sad
Android can be unlinked. It is safer that way. Unless I actually log onto facebook (once a week or six) I'm not there luckily.
What should be more concerning is that many people have g-mail accounts for mobility and to sync, with google's business service there are some massive multinationals that use the infrastructure centred around and he plus have their e-mail accounts under their domain but in effect being a g-mail account, which comes with google plus, so many employees are on google's various bits and pieces without realising it, the google equivalent of the "like" icon is already becoming common. That can have very severe repercussions. Facebook is at least partially limited to social, your e-mail is set in your professional capacity where the fallout can be horrendous.
MIKE_ thanks for your reply, but can the "like" icons not be moved to say next to the "search" icon, or between the "dogging" and "forum" icon or so?
Quote by CaptainandhisC
It is quite simple. We posted a profile and an add and our mailbox is flooded by lots of horny single guys. We just don't have the energy or the time to reply to every email.

Drink redbull smile
Quote by PerfectFit
What always makes us laugh is we will get an email from a couple saying We are interested blah blah, so we reply and say yes we are interested as well and then we don't hear from them again. Always find that a bit odd

Must say that has always puzzled us
Quote by LetsPlayinCPT
If a profile says No single guys and a single guy contacts them don't expect a reply! The SH system can be set to automatically delete emails from single guys - so if your email stays unread maybe they have that set
Having said that, very few couples reply to messages from other couples. Seems that decency and courtesy goes out the window when you can hide behind an anonymous identity

As said previously, if your profile is so far off target from want then what they want then don't expect an answer. As said in another thread of the same topic, some people cant take a simple no. We have been on swinging sites for many years and replying to people who are obviously not a match does get tedious, especially when most of the ones you say no to then go out of their way to to try and convince you that you should make an exception for them. not once or twice but days and weeks on end. Quite often they also get quite abusive. So if people don't reply, don't take it personally, it is just not meant to happen. Keep in mind that some people don't log in and reply t pm's on daily basis.
Quote by Mike_Pta
I think you need to expand on your profile a bit first. I think your profile needs to stand on its own if you want to attract people worth meeting.

Agreed.
Profile as it is doesn't merit a second peek.
Quote by naughtyguy2015
Why do people not have the decency to just reply to an email... We understand your inbox is flooded by single guys trying to get somewhere ....
unfortunately you sometimes need to be rude to get the point across.....
Quote by stoutgatte2013
thanx for the feed back, then maybe just alike button like FB?

Also been discussed.
One of the other (pay nogal) sites that we were on a few years ago had something like that. It was the most useless, pointless and abused things. People were 'liking' their online buddies (who they had never met). You had the popular people that had friends list running into the hundreds and each friend would 'like' them every day and so on. In the 11 years that we have been swinging and the way over 20 years of meeting people socially from the internet we have unsubscribed from two sites, that was one of them. It was (maybe still is) a well known swingers site.
Be careful who you meet and who you play with, that leads to less issues later on.
You can already leave comments. if you trawl through the forums (i'm to lazy and disinclined to search for it) this has been covered before, general consensus is that the damage it can do far outweighs the positive, people can slate you just before you have declined to chat/cam/meet or whatever. Many people here can tell you of some hairy pm's from people that take it very personally when you tell them thanks but no thanks. What happens when those that want to slate you now have a function to do it with in public.........?
Quote by owen01
So im keen to make the gf swallow but she always has an excuse . Any tips lol is swallowing so bad ladies ? I just want to experience someone swallow while i orgasm

Your opening sentence says it all........ how about you cum in your hand and then drink it?
I've come across it quite a lot over the years, so not entirely sure why you are surprised by it.
First meet late at night is usually a sign that it wont happen........ ever.
Quote by mikebu
Very Good point. You will need somebody to clean the room and change linen after every booking.

i think you meant after every bonking
Quote by LeeEC
Um. No thanks. I have no intention of wearing a ball and chain. Ha ha ha

the most brilliant ideas always have detractors, just look at Gelileo :sad: :bounce:rotflmao
hmmmm lets use something that is unlikely to become fasionable, like a ball and chain run through your navel smile seem to recall that belly rings had similar meaning
Quote by SDMR

Problem is there be no power at Eskom.
As a matter of interest statistically there are large variances between population groups (demographics???) in terms of HIV and Aids, the variances vary between races, ages, careers, locations and how regularly people travel away from home requiring an overnight stay.

Statistics are way too easily manipulated and cannot be accurate in any form - at least not above 75%. The statistics in this country (because I have no knowledge of other countries) are gathered to obtain a specific result. Right from our education system, to our health care system. Our schools regularly ask the pupils / learners / students (or whatever they are called these days) what language they speak at home, how many brothers or sisters they have etc WHY? What on earth for?
If you want focus on a particular area, you survey a particular group in order to get the appropriate survey result to get involvement. Don't misunderstand me here, survey's need to be done, I'm just saying that they are done in such a way that it justifies what was already decided from a budgetary point of view.
Pretty much the same as the penis size statistics, everything says that the average size is X and the average width is Y . . . but have you seen the pictures on this site? wink no bloody wonder so many of us get laughed at when we have said we were "average sized" . . . rotflmao
You do realise that every time you donate blood or have blood tested you are screened for HIV and Aids? This data is collected and put together by various NGO's, bits and pieces of it comes out in the press and so on, but all of it is available to various HIV and Aids organisations. This is not because anyone is keeping anything hidden or under wraps, just that the press will rather say we have one of the highest infection rates in the world than say that the infection rate in RSA is dropping, good news does not get spread, bad news does.
I suppose that means that measures of distance are not standardized, which would mean that 1cm here is not 1cm in the Czech republic smile
Quote by SDMR
and my final word to you all is :color:

The thing is, if the powers that be stopped trying to "force" us to accept :color: and left us to figure it out for ourselves, there would probably be way more progress . . . .
Problem is there be no power at Eskom.
As a matter of interest statistically there are large variances between population groups (demographics???) in terms of HIV and Aids, the variances vary between races, ages, careers, locations and how regularly people travel away from home requiring an overnight stay.
Someone said that when you feel intimidated by a group of people, such as going into a meeting or doing a speech, you should imagine them all naked, this will then get relax your thoughts (packs instinctively attack anything that gives of the smell of fear), well i think that should be changed, imagine them all masturbating
Quote by Mike_Pta
I must masturbate at least 12 times a week on avaverage. Once a weekday before bed, I can't sleep without it. Weekends in indulge a bit more. Hell I even choke the chicken after a play date.

hmmm you do it very quietly if you dont wake anyone else in the bed
Bathroom bizarre also have a nice selection of jacuzzis smile jokes aside there is a place south of pta near rietvlei called Pheasant hill, ill pm their number for you