I imagine that the best way to choose is to do it together. ..
LeeEC now I agree with you Joy and I choose together our play mates then not her or I can complain afterwards.
Joyrider
The only way it works is if you both into it.
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joyrider
Over 90 days ago
Straight White/Caucasian Male, 53
Bi-curious White/Caucasian Female, 53
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well with the last comment that was made that will also explain a lot the women then only look for super hunks. and that i have a problem with. pls understand i do not say the person must be ugly you looking for but if the lady just picks the other cpl or guy because she likes how the guy looks. then is it not boarding on. never mind. guys if your lady is the one that keeps on picking the men or cpl and you land up where you dont like the other lady because she is a ice queen. dont you think jy het dit lat vir jou eie gat gepluk. and same goes if she picks the guy for mmf. she is then not picking the guy for just the fun side but rather for how she can oo and aa about the guy instead of oo and aa about you her partner
and guys if you picked the lady/cpl and the lady turned out to be a ice queen then you can not blame it on your partners. but your self.
Joyrider
oops did it again
hi there guys and girls,
okay in ramsagate on the beach is a place called blue lagoon. at the back of blue lagoon is a nice little walk way which goes to waffiel house. those that have been there will know what i am talking about.
what i would like to know is how safe is it at night to have fun there and is it a good place to be in dec and how many people do it there at night? as we were thinking of going to look this dec
According to what I could hear and feel the new female condom (from lovers+) is way smaller and does not squeek at all, the only thing that I do find a bit irritating is the fact that you must pull the outside ring a bit, or if your partner pulls out too far it can be an issue, but safer sex is more important than pulling the thing a bit. It is absolutely way better than the male condom. I can still feel in all the right places, specially if you have a large penis, the male condoms intend to break a lot when getting a bit too rough. We have tested the female condom doing it rough and it lasted. I personally feel that it is worth a try.
There is another female condom that is more expensive but I must say that one really looks like a bag even the packaging looks way bigger, while the cheaper version is smaller.
Everyone's taste differs but give it a try, their is so many deceases out these days, rather play safe than sorry, and add it as part of a bit of fun in the bedroom. :twisted:
Joy
Freaking out about all the deceases 
Hi there all,
Well let me give you guys some feed back on the female condom.
Well let me say this, damn, why did i not find it sooner. Okay when you see the condom in place it is lets say it is quite intimedading. But boy o boy it is way better then the male condom. You feels better than with the male condom and not just that, you can pull out of the lady and let her suck a bit and then push straight back in, o it is great. Where with the male condom when you pull out of the lady and she sucks, you don't feel it as the condom blocks the feeling. And when pushing in and out of the lady the feeling is way, way better than using the male condom.
Joyrider
This is Rider i am now a new man, female condoms rule
Okay here is now the following thing I think the Government should work on.
When it comes to condoms, a man can get them for free from some places and at some places they hand them out in public for free. Not just that there is so much pressure put on the men to use condoms.
Now I saw for the first time how the female condoms looks like yesterday. My question is the following. WHY is the female condoms also not given out to the women for free? Everyone says the women are the most responsible. so don't you think if the female condoms are given for free then 90% of the problems have been eliminated?
Joyrider
Just food for thought
Quote by LeeEC
You might be right Rider about the relationship between the size and the position - but on the issue of oral; I suspect if you're a lot bigger than their partner, and if they aren't sure whether you'll allow them to control the process, the oral might be a scary prospect for them. On the issue of positions, I suggest asking what her favorite is BEFORE proceeding to the bedroom... then you know what you're in for. Could also be the prevailing attitude in the age group you're meeting with (that Joy is unusually willing/explorative/liberated in her ways).
This is the HUGE benefit to flirting before hand, the ability to talk with prospective playmates at length about expectations, ideas etc, allows you to prompt them to be a bit more adventurous when you finally get to play.
Also sometimes with a big guy... to the woman; the idea of being on top (if she's not fit, tall, supple and/or flexible) can freak a girl out - especially if you're quite long and very erect.
Thank you LeeEC your answer just confirmed what I was suspecting all along. So basic if you have a big tool you screwed :sad:. But it would be nice to also hear what the other ladies over here also have to say and to give advice
Quote by JustaLurker
I would suggest that you ask politely if she could give you some oral action back and when you do get to have sex that you subtly hint that would it not be nice if she could climb on top in order for you to enjoy her beauty.
Thank you for your reply, but I have tried to hint but the ladies always have an excuse about oral and with the hinting to try another position they say no they prefer it on their back not even doggy style.
Hey just got an idea, do women prefer to lay on their back if the guy is too big? I am just grabbing now at straws to try an find an answer
Now how do I put this?
Okay let me start at the beginning. We meet our first Cpl when it came to the bedroom fun it we the following way. I start by giving the lady oral suck nipples and her love box then I asked her if I can push in and we did it missionary style. And that was it. Then we meet the next Cpl and the same thing too place and so with the third Cpl that is what happened in my set up.
In joys side she had to give the guy head and claim on top and do it in different ways.
Now I want to ask the following:
During the fun part must I tell the lady hey give me some head or hey how about you get on top for a change. For he as person that does not feel right telling the lady what to do. Or are the ladies like that if you do not bark out orders then all they want to do is just lay there. I mean where's the fun in that? And they don't want to try something new?
So what do I do? Or should I ask what do women prefer?
rider
Well we have the following o report. Joy was complaining when i am in side her she can not feel me and I could not feel her when she cums. So she started doing exercises with a big marble inside her. What she would do is see how long she could hold the ball inside with out it falling out. Now after 2 months believe me I can feel the difference. jippee 
Now I have a problem she has done so much to improve things from her side, what can I do to improve things from my side. Is there any pennis exercisers I can do to make my p..... harder or at least something? To improve things from my side
Joyrider
Now it is my turn to try and repay her with everyones help
Now I have a problem she has done so much to improve things from her side, what can I do to improve things from my side. Is there any pennis exercisers I can do to make my p..... harder or at least something? To improve things from my side
Joyrider
Now it is my turn to try and repay her with everyones help Thank you for the answers so far but, is the following reason maybe why some moan and some don't.
After a person has kids and as the kids are growing up a person does not want the kids to know when mommy and daddy is having nooky. They say if you repeat something for more that 21 days then it becomes a habbit. So after 15 years of having nooky and not making a noise I think it is because, it is just a habbit then.
Or am I wrong by thinking this way?
Joyrider
Looking for a noise maker
Well this is one of the reasons I do not take part any more. The people always think they know more and know better, which is not always the case and no matter what you say you are always the pig in the pen.
What would be nice is if someone posts something like ''Why do some women moan during sex and some don't''. The people should answer the question and not be nasty about it. I mean the forum is not just for some people to exchange ideas and for other people to be nasty with others that answers. According to me a person should also be able to enhance one's knowledge on the forum. Instead of been said 'sleg'.
Joyrider
Hope to learn more
Is this the way it should work? Or is this the norm?
We have met a few cpl's so far but it has lead to nothing. Just a met and greet. During the met and greet a person chats about general things like what the other cpl likes and dislike and your likes and dislike and the rules and boundaries which one should not cross. And then the conversation turns to about other cpls which they have met and what went wrong for the other cpl when they met other cpls during the fun part and thereafter. Note the part of thereafter. Which is of great concern for us as a cpl!
We have met more than 3 cpl's that all say the same thing. The married man of the cpl B which they have met then start to worry the other cpls wife A at work. And the man of cpl B then tries to get the married wife of cpl A to have an a fear behind her husband's back and behinds his own wife's back. And it gets to should a point that the cpls part in bad teams as the man of cpl B has broken the trust bond.
Now I want to know the following:
1. Is this the norm how things happen?
2. Do you contact the cpls wife of cpl A and tell her what her hubby is doing behind her back and is she happy with what her husband is doing.
3. Or do you just just fuck the guy up?
Because of what the men are doing we as a cpl is now scared to met other cpls .
Please give advice for in case we do come across such a man.
Joyrider
This is something we did not expect to hear from other cpls!
We have met a few cpl's so far but it has lead to nothing. Just a met and greet. During the met and greet a person chats about general things like what the other cpl likes and dislike and your likes and dislike and the rules and boundaries which one should not cross. And then the conversation turns to about other cpls which they have met and what went wrong for the other cpl when they met other cpls during the fun part and thereafter. Note the part of thereafter. Which is of great concern for us as a cpl!
We have met more than 3 cpl's that all say the same thing. The married man of the cpl B which they have met then start to worry the other cpls wife A at work. And the man of cpl B then tries to get the married wife of cpl A to have an a fear behind her husband's back and behinds his own wife's back. And it gets to should a point that the cpls part in bad teams as the man of cpl B has broken the trust bond.
Now I want to know the following:
1. Is this the norm how things happen?
2. Do you contact the cpls wife of cpl A and tell her what her hubby is doing behind her back and is she happy with what her husband is doing.
3. Or do you just just fuck the guy up?
Because of what the men are doing we as a cpl is now scared to met other cpls .
Please give advice for in case we do come across such a man.
Joyrider
This is something we did not expect to hear from other cpls!
Well I think swinging is like FISHING. Everyone wants that perfect catch, but like fishing sometimes you use the wrong bite and sometimes there is just no fish were you are costing. And sometimes you do catch fish, but it is not the fish the right size you are looking for. So you throw it back. But you are happy you did catch a fish. So you try again and again. Only to find that the fish you had in mind just don't want to bite.
So the morale of the story is, be happy if you do land up catching a fish or pack up and move to another spot.
Am I right or wrong?
Joyrider
Still trying to catch a fish, at this point any fish will count
Hi Guys and Ladies
Well this is happened about 3 weeks ago.
I took my wife to another lady for an erotic massage and guess what! my wife turned around afterwards and said to me. ''that was not what I expected from an erotic massage.'' I then asked her what did she expect and she replied ''I expected an erotic massage to be more about the teasing''.
Now people can you please tell me what should happen if a lady gives another lady an erotic massage and while we are on this point what should happen if a lady gives a man an erotic massage.
Joyride
Need help please
Well why are we here mmm good question!
Well we joined because joy wanted to arrange a single lady to play (have fun) with us as a cpl on a long term relationship. Well needless to say we have come to the conclusion that there is NO lady or ladies out there that will do it.
O and before I forget, I wanted to feel how another lady would feel like too.
So we had a change of heart. We then went for cpl's. Mmm. Found 1 or 2 cpl's, and let me tell you, I had the chance to feel how another lady felt like, and all I have to say is, it was not as empressive, as I thought it would be. Ever heard of the saying there is no place like home or the saying why go out for takeaways if you can eat first grade steak at home.
Now we are here still looking for cpls and ladies that is genuine, as we can count on our one hand a few genuine cpls and ladies. We all have our kicks out of the fun with cpls and ladies, so if we get asked this question again, we are here to spice up our love life.
Joyrider
Still hoping that one day we will find that lady that will let me say WOW that was great, being with us.
:banghead: SDMR,
How can you have a problem with a cpl that is not scare to show other people they still love one another. I mean do you know how nice it is to see an old cpl still holding hands and kissing after 40 years of been together. I mean not many people these days can brag about been so in love after so many years.
Joyrider
Showing other people you still love and care for your partner is not a crime 