Okay guys, I was wondering something after talking to a few gents and ladies.

Double Penetration.  Yup,  2 men and one lady!!!  Can be vaginal and anally or just vaginally and in some cases just anally. So okay, if there are some men who had double penetration themselves, although I would not think the gents will tell us if they did.

Some men says it is awesome, (that is in the *giving scenario) they how ever might say they are NOT bisexual and do not like other men touching them. Some will say they like it and it does not matter if another guys junk and balls touch their own. 

The ladies mostly said they either liked it or NOT ever again!!! Mostly it will be the anal penetration part.

WHAT I want to know is HOW many couples or singles has ever enjoyed/enjoy double penetration?? Why you like it or Not like it.

My own opinion ...I enjoyed both frequently ....anally and vaginally... ONLY Vaginally, was very uncomfortable for me...I felt way too stretched and it was in fact painful to be honest, to really enjoy the experience, and I really discouraged anyone trying it with me ever again. I never allowed double penetration anally only!!!

I like anal, so being double penetrated vaginally and anally was the nicer of the two, and I liked it. 

The men who participated was LONG TERM lovers of mine and both was open minded and was bisexual. I also felt really cared for during those play times. 
So what is your thoughts and experiences?

@ Henny55  I have not been to a club in many years....so I would not really know, thanks for sharing.

Eish, thinking of this, really makes me feel way older (and jaded) than what I am already!!!

@2some4fun   I am SO VERY glad I never had kids. Just thinking about the reality of what you are saying!!! 

@localcouple1234 I try not judging anyone myself, I will have to judge myself first if I do!

@abe123  You lucky man!!  I had to laugh at the dented head comment though.

@bob969  Yeah, me and you both..no kids and never was pregnant,( Had a hysterectomy in my late 20`s)  I also never played with a pregnant lady. Just Seeing you trying to give the fetus a black eye in my minds-eye here and laughing....

Made me remember about some little pregnancy-doodles/sketches  I saw when I was in my 20`s about babies in a womb...one was knocking back sperm with his little fists...one was moaning about sneezing due to *mom* powdering her Va-jay-jay. There where a bunch of them     all hilarious.....

Thanks for all the comments guys, seems our site is way, way more open minded!!!

@lizaan  I had to smile about the first pregnancy causing Mrs to be more horny, but the second not so much...it is normal most ladies will tell you guys this.

@ Aromatic_Man   Thanks for sharing.  

Over the last few years I have noticed that more and more recently married couples become swingers,I have to admit that I do struggle to understand what brings young newlyweds into swinging. If you are already looking for something else within the first few years of marriage. Why is that??? Swinging was originally a concept designed for *older* married couples who were honest enough to say that although they love their spouse, they wouldn't mind having a different experience from time to time. For these couples this revelation came after 10 to 15+ years of marriage. Or am I wrong???

Why do young couples feel that they need variety right from the start?  

I was talking to someone about being PREGNANT AND SWINGING. In all my years I have never met a lady who  is pregnant who still participates with/in swinging. Usually most couples takes a break when they find they are pregnant.

However, HOW  Open minded are you and how do you feel about meeting couples who is Pregnant and want to meet up for some fun?
I also found  this topic was discussed on one of my other swingers sites....and this is what some of the  people said about this.  WHAT is your view??
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 Is this really a thing? Pregnant women who actually go to parties to swing?!   

I will say that it would freak me out if I did. 

 I will admit I am a little weird for this but pregnant women turn me on. Even if I couldn't play with her, if I could watch her!!!!!! 

What is wrong with people! Can women seriously not take themselves out of the lifestyle for the short time they are pregnant? That's sick to think about women having sex (even if it's not intercourse) with other men during their pregnancy.  

I say live and let live. What's the big deal? I have seen a pregnant woman in a swing club before. I do not know if she actually played but it's really none of our business. As long as she's not hurting anyone what's all the fuss? 

Not hurting anyone when a pregnant woman plays with someone other than her husband? I beg to differ. She is hurting her baby and her marriage. Is there nothing sacred anymore? Allowing another man to penetrate you when you are pregnant is sick 

 Why the hell are you even having a baby? Children don't deserve to be brought into the middle of such a dysfunctional situation. I have nothing against swinging but I do when kids are involved in the equation. 

Why all the judgement? I think it's an individual decision. If a woman feels comfortable to play while pregnant I think she should be free to do as she chooses.   

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AS I was reading the comments I suddenly thought that only a few people appeared Open minded about this, and the one really thought a poor pregnant couple is in a dysfunctional situation  (REALLY??????) why is that person in Swinging if she/he thinks the lifestyle is dysfunctional. And what is the situation then WHEN you swing while having kids at home??? Okay, we all know, MOST couples go out to play and NOT while their kids are home, but still??????Dysfunctional???? because you are a parent????  AND does a Fetus and further along in pregnancies now a Baby, KNOW that the person penetrating the Mom is not the Dad??  Just asking???

Okay What are your thoughts on this???

I myself think,  there must be some people who keep swinging while they are pregnant or trying to become pregnant. There are also other swingers who choose to temporarily take a break from swinging. Both options are acceptable personal choices in my opinion.
Most women don’t appear to be pregnant for several months.  Your attraction should not  be impacted during that time.  Once a lady does start to show signs of being pregnant, some swinger men may be less attracted but other men might become even more attracted with the ladies increased ample bosom and glowing skin. And if we are honest, there are also some men that have a fetish for pregnant ladies.
Many pregnant women can enjoy a robust sex life, but other women might find they are hindered by certain medical conditions. But if your doctor says it is okay, why not?? You should however remember to worry about STD`s. Some STI`s can be passed in utero. As everyone in the lifestyle *HOPEFULLY* is an adult and are true swingers, should understand if you ask for an updated STD report from their doctor. And remain using condoms (hopefully this still is NOT an issue).
You can also remain enjoying the thrill of the swinging lifestyle, think of going back to Soft Swap, or being a voyeur. Even think of going Bisexual...ladies is less likely to give you an STD and any external kissing and touching tends to be a lower risk.

Thus for me, any Pregnant lady/couple should be able to enjoy their lifestyle. and WE as the people who are judgemental should remember that any pregnant lady is part of a BIG joyful Miracle.

I like PoohC *strings attached*   Mrs PoocH has a VERY nice Body for some *string*..... *we* dumpy ladies/gents  has some difficulty with keeping the *strings* attaching/ insitu to our bodies in the/a correct shibari sensual way.

Anyway back to topic.

I think MOST of the couples and singles would LIKE a NSA relationship, As one night/hookups is not really nice, we do want to get to know the person one plays with, BUT knowing that there WILL not be any feelings developing except trust and friendship. 

@ Slowvelder69  hmmm   should be difficult to do a porno selfie on the loo...I would think...  but makes me wonder if I should maybe post that pic of me old nether parts,while sitting on a table with a glass sheet for a top....all squished up it was...laughing..just teasing you!

@ SDM   Laughing this side of the computer.....EVERYONE, my friend, has alone time....it is just how you use it that counts...if the so called *partner* does not give you space, then how the heck do/will that person hook up?? or  even be on the computer perving???

Nope toilet seat  photos are really Not erotic at all....

Oh BOY......  here is another thought.....it may be THAT a toilet photo is the ONLY time the *little Mr* is erect enough for a decent photo......laughing.....  laughing.....

I myself  like butts and hands...mostly HANDS!!!!! I have seen way to many cocks to be really impressed...yeah yeah I see hands and butts daily!!!!  BUT at least they are erotic and enticing!!! Just saying.....

@ redbruce.  I so agree with you,  rimming and even swallowing cum and doing cunnilingus with out using a dam, I feel in today's society should only happen between life partners, not every Tom Dick and Harry you meet up with.  And here I know MOST lifestyle couples and others will disagree with me.... I know I am safe and clean BUT can YOU(everyone else) be sure of that??  If I had multi partners who has multi partners themselves, and some just hook-ups. Even if I produce my doctors note of clean health.....one can really NOT be sure.

@ abe123  LMAO 2 you!!!!  Scat is REALLY one of my VERY VERY HIGH hard limits. And if I do remember correctly scat has been discussed previously, but I will have to go back a few years...just as I did discuss Golden Showers.

Hi Trx,  Well no one answered you so here goes my thoughts on the subject.....

I am just talking about myself here, that was from when I was still playing....  I was careful meeting younger men that was 10 years younger than myself, some was looking for a sugar mommy...some was insecure with their performance, some really got *OVER involved* after meeting up, some thought I was desperate for sex...and let me tell you that was certainly NOT an issue. Mostly older ladies have already formed their circle of friends with benefits already. Some older ladies like to go out for a drink/meal/ before jumping in a bed...MOST younger guys shy away from that for how do you explain if you accidentally meet up with someone you know???  I met numerous younger gents than myself....but it was mostly for KINKY meet ups. Once again I have to mention that KINK and regular sexual meet ups differ vastly, for me that is!!! And I for one dislike being seen as a cougar...I know a few ladies who loves being thought of as an cougar,  well I am Not one. I also like not to young to older men who Knows what he does and what  I would like. I dislike instructing someone in sex when I am there just to enjoy sex just as he is.

BUT remember this is only ME...other ladies might now take up the Fora and disagree with me and they are way way welcome to do so.

I do hope you find a lady who invites you to meet up.

Oh   I was just re reading my mail friends mail...he says he usually enters a lady after the *other* guy has cum   he then also cums and deposits his cum....to cause a nice cream pie??  I always thought this is called a cum dump????  Now I have to go google again...seems Alzheimer has a LONGER grip on me than I thought.....

@ redbruce   Thanks for sharing. Yeah it most certainly is not for anyone, but as my *mail friend* said each to his/her own. 

@ Slowvelder69  Hardlimit..for most of us I think.... Just the thought of slurping it OUT of an anus just makes me shiver.....NOPE,  not for me.....

@Abe123   sooooo  You would run  huh????  or you advising us all to run?....or you wanna go running from me and my kinky side??  Do not blame you at all.

@PoocH  Thanks for sharing your loveys nice pic!  Yeah, I would think most men if they had a nice orgasm...they are way to relaxed to want to watch any felching or creampie shenanigans.

Reading all the comments makes me smile,  we really are a lot of pussies.  BUT then, I rather be a pussy than to be on *clean up spills* duty!!!!

I received this mail from a gent. I told him I am going to copy and paste his insightful contribution here. He had me rushing BACK to google to see if he was right or that I interpreted google right. Here is his insightful contribution to the Fora.

Hi PIB

It's been awhile since last I "spoke" with you. Quite coincidentally I was looking for that very word this week when chatting to someone - I knew there was a word for that action but couldn't remember it so Google helped me out.

I had always thought that the difference between creampie and felching was the sex of the cum receiver, thus creampie for cum in ladies, and felching being cum in the gentleman:  obviously I was wrong in that assumption and, as you say, the difference really is the fact that one has to suck the cum out of the orifice as opposed to licking it when flowing freely from said orifice (be it anus or vagina).

I read Redbruce's comment about being in a MMF threesome where he found it not to his liking - each to his own.  So here is my comment on this situation:.  I have thoroughly enjoyed a creampie after the husband (or other male depending on the relationship of the couple at play) has deposited his load in his wife (or the lady we are playing with) and I then enter her and deposit my load in her together with that which is left in her from the other guy.

Oh yes, NO, I have not practiced felching!

@Watyouwant    I so agree with you,  but then after I really sat and thought about it....it really is just *Cream Pie* in a dish...kinda......  LMAO.....   It still remains a hard limit for me....Thanks for the comment. and yes...you ARE allowed to think it is yucky!!!

SOooooo....With NO response from anyone I do believe you all KNEW what Felching meant????

Soooo okay.............. Felching might not be that gross...if I think about it....We do swallow semen when giving a Blow Job. Well not everyone...but still....  We do rimming as part of foreplay..... once again not everyone.

But what makes me think  Felching is gross then??  Must be the slurping or sucking (with a straw or without) it out after being deposited in an orifice.   AND yeah, being me  and BEING KINKY, I confess to sometimes catching the ejaculated semen  of subs into a little liqueur glass  and make them drink it themselves.....just saying.....gross or not???

@Cubix    You can try Vicks But I hope your lady can handle the burn.... keep in mind Vicks is not easy to clean up if the need is there urgently. And each person will react differently to the same stimulation....one cannot say what works for whom...  I concur with abe123 that Cinnamon essential oil (diluted)  works wonderful....I myself would rather use Cinnamon oil instead of Vicks.  and Deep Heat also works better than Vicks. I know toothpaste works  ( any minty flavour) I never tried Sensodyn though.

I am mostly up to date with *strange* sexual meanings and most sexual acts, but sometimes some new word sorta creeps up on me and I am lost...and  then I Need to rush to google the meaning of the word. And boy do I learn new things/words daily!!!!!   Some words is used daily and the *other word* meaning the same is not needed,  Like pussy farts that is really queefing, if one wants to be prissy about such things as using the correct word when talking or writing about such things.     I was reading and the word Felching was mentioned. As I did not know the meaning of this word, I googled .......and BOY was I surprised.....

I can tell you guys,  Felching will most certainly be one of my hard limits... I myself do not even like Creampie!!!! 

Felching is a sexual practice involving the act of orally sucking semen out of the vagina or anus of one's partner.(apparently you can even offer the person a straw to do this, but it is not really needed)
Made me wonder what the difference was between a Creampie and Felching....   well.... Creampie is where the semen is allowed to run/flow freely out of the orifice it was deposited in....where as with Felching the semen is kept inside the anus/vagina with out spilling hence the sucking or slurping the semen out of the orifice it was deposited in.

You guys learned or know of a interesting new sexual terminology lately??? Please do share with me.

He...he... I had to smile with Shaybytheway  How true the words are...*acting and conducting one`s age and maturity.* I have found some 20 year olds who is more mature than guys in their 50`s.

My 2c about mature groups...sorry I can not direct you to other sites or groups. 

@ The_Tanners   Oh boy!!!  fanny farts...it is the worst sound EVER!!!! and the sound of slapping balls against your ass!!!!  makes me smile just thinking of them. Talking about giving little nips on ticklish places....Made me think of the ONE time I was giving a BJ and playing with his balls, and me trying to give him a little more stimulation by rubbing on his external area where his prostrate is, I decided to enter his anus and give him a real prostrate massage.....HE jumped so HIGH and squealed  so loud, I thought I was hurting him...when I just slid my finger OVER his anus NOT even entering YET..... he deflated right there and then...Took me a while to get him to relax...and hard again...and I NEVER EVER tried any stimulation  THERE ever again....WE NEVER spoke about that EVER...one of those situations to be best forgotten. 

@ haveusbc   LOL,yeah the paper-bag worked well,  he gave a loud belly laugh and we really *clicked* 

@ sass8021  and Shaybytheway   Humor is really needed when one meets new people. 

Hmm...............  Seems NO one wants to argue/debate/agree/disagree with me??  How about the part where I say everyone will one way or the other be competitive  with new partners????  And No one wants to say anything about having fun......eish........

I went and browsed the groups, some are really in-active, and only has ONE (the person starting that group) as a member, also makes me think someone should go and check and delete or discontinue these inactive groups.

I also have to mention that there is/was active groups (my previous profile was a member)  How I know this...well I usually received mails with at least monthly updates on what is happening or invites. So there is really groups that is active. 

How many of you guys have FUN and games and laughter while having sex??  ALL of you, I would think MOST of you guys will shout *We ALWAYS have fun!!!*  You more than likely thinking* Where the heck is Her head and thoughts off too??*

Well let me explain.....
Let`s be honest here.  Meeting a new playmate or play couple, most people are always worried about body image, how they are performing, what is expected of and from them. 

Think of how some body sounds could make you feel,queasy or shameful, although it is just normal really, how if you are on the chubby side how your body moves and waves and wobbles around when you move,  how if you are to slim how your bone structure/skeleton could be painful for your partner as it is digging into areas that you should not feel when your protruding bones rubs against the others body parts. How you might be scared of crushing someone with your weight. Farting unexpectedly..little things like that.  How about sexual competition??  Yes there is ALWAYS  a part of you, if you are honest,that is competitive when you have multi partners. I DARE you to disagree!!!!!!

Makes me think back...I once met someone new at home, I opened my door wearing a paper bag over my head!!!!  It made him and myself smile and the tension of meeting someone new was broken.  I also once gave a BJ after NOT doing that for many-many years....trying to deep-throat him...I gagged..my eyes watered and I was out of breath, (which is just natural really)he seemed worried, after I dried my eyes and could breath again.. but after laughing at myself, and telling him I was overzealous, he relaxed and laughed with me.....and I could return to give him a nice Deep Throat BJ.....which I enjoyed giving. The point I’m trying to make is that there’s no harm in addressing when something is funny or awkward or something insanely uncomfortable happens during sex.
We all should really stop taking ourselves so seriously during sex and let loose and enjoy ourselves.

Having new sexual partners we should also remember that often there is some fumbling and a mishap or two when you start out having sex. Know when to ignore certain things, smile and do not laugh when something tickles your giggle bone, but try and share it... laugh at yourself when you fumbling something...just relax and try and know your new lover is also nervous  with his or her own issues.    

Humor is something one should be wary of though. Laughing when nervous, or trying to make fun of yourself can back fire quickly. It also can be charming and putting someone at ease, it is really something one must approach with care. Know when to ignore something and not to linger on what ever disturbed you, sometimes making as if it never happened is also better. 

Couples or Long term play mates who know and trust each other,always have way more fun and humor in the bedroom.

Soo  Once again,  I am asking how may of you guys really have FUN in the bedroom????

Welcome.

@ Padda_lover.  I would think anyone would like to receive a pair of shoes from someone anonymous, A pity I have to decline such a nice offer though, I stagger around in slippers these days.......No heels and no boots for me anymore!!!! Although I have to admit to having kept a pair of both and ONE JUST ONE of my many corsets...the rest is all gone.......and all my old toys will soon be gone.....eish......all that is remaining is my memoirs....

Looking  at Young_jes`s photo, & reading of her foot jobs, reminded me of a few (KINKY of course!!!!) times I really went out of my way to accommodate a few gents with this kind of fetish....So here goes.....one Gent once asked me to walk and step on his cock and balls...NOW doing this is NOT really as easy as it sounds...first of, if you want to use high heels, how to get the guys cock and balls  to co-operate.... well, I took an old sturdy coffee table and asked a neighbour to cut me a circular hole in the middle, I then proceeded to saw of the 4 legs untill my lovey could just slide underneath and lie there relaxing underneath the little table...NEXT time I met up with the gentle man, I took my little table with me to the dungeon!!!!!! I then proceeded by telling him to lie underneath the table (naked) while I pulled his genitals through the hole in the table top..... that gave me a NICE stepping on genitals area, with me comfy and him in heaven (or hell) as some of you would think.... another one of my designs if I may say so....was taking a cheap pair of flip flops  or (vis-plakkies in afrikaans) cutting a nice hole into the sole...NOW,I could step on the guys cock  with the sole of my foot instead of the high heels.... while he is under the little coffee table!!!  Best was walking bare foot of course!!!!  I never had to struggle with my balance!!!

Oh goodness, this reminds me...ONE REQUEST I REFUSED ....one YOUNG gent asked me to hammer a few (large thick)nails through his balls (and not only through the skin Nope it had to go through the meaty part of the ball!!!!!  and through the head of his cock.       Now needle( surgical needles) play is another thing....but needs to be used surgically safe and  by someone who knows what the risks are!!!

ONCE again guys REMEMBER you can injure someone BADLY by doing the above if you are NOT careful and do things safely !!!!! I NEVER put my whole weight down on any gents cock and balls at any time!!!! I was always fat and heavy!!!! never a light weight.

@ Young_jes  Thank you for sharing, Looking at your photo of your foot, you do have NICE long toes that probably gives great foot jobs!!! High Five to you!!!

@Padda_lover  You sure are someone a lady could befriend....*Specially* if you become friends with a lady who LOVES shoes!!!!  Hope you have a DEEP wallet!!!

@Fantasy2  Wow! Sounds as if you surely know Foot reflexology for such orgasm giving foot massages. When are you coming over??? (Just teasing with the last few words, ne.) 

I thought I would put in a few types of chemical situations you guys might try and use. Either on yourself or your lovey. JUST remember this is something you could try even being as vanilla as snow!!!  Also REMEMBER....Everyone can react differently. Some will yawn and say no effect while others will say it causes great stimulation,or even burns and pain. There is no one size fits all. The sensation of chemicals on your tongue is very similar to other mucous membranes. 

Just like you would use/alternate between ICE and Heat to increase sensations....Ps...tea instead of coffee is always better to use as a heat subject,alternate sucking an ice cube  or drink a mouthful of HOTTTTTT  tea  during a  Blow Job or Cunnilingus. Also remember that ice tends to burn and STICK to wet membranes if inserted with out water as a lubricant. 

Easy to use.
Breath-mints or Throat Lozenges.   Choose something with Menthol or Mint or Peppermint. Do a blowjob/cunnilingus....while sucking on this.

If you choose to try something MORE...Like using something on a penis/vulva/anus or nipples. You can rub it in specific areas, or do a nice massage.
Choose some Essential oils. Remember to DILUTE your oil..it is way TO strong to use directly. Also to dilute a substance depends on its base. Water based substances can be diluted with water. Oil based substances can be
diluted with oil. I usually use either almond oil or coconut oil. Best essensial oils to use in chemical play...Cinnamon,Clove,Capsicum,Ylang-ylang, Frankincense,Peppermint,Lemon,Indian Sandalwood and Clary Sage.

Some Muscle rubs   
Like Tigerbalm,IcyHot, Bengay, Vicks, Wintergreen Nice on a Penis.....burns and heats up things nicely!!!

Things you have in the house...Like Minty toothpaste, Tobasco sauce (BURNS)

From the green grocer...
Chili`s.....ginger.....the little burning nettles weeds in your garden.   these are more extreme....

Use milk or yogurt as preventive , start out small and increase as time passes, 
Remember some things take up to 15 to 20 minutes to really be effective...
ALSO remember to KNOW WHAT you are ALLERGIC to.....
READ the small print on any essensial oil bottle to KNOW what is in it.
PLAY SAFE