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Oscar is just another "irresponsible" gun owner! Regardless if he did it in a fit of rage or an accident as he claims, there should never been a gun in his position. He is a little boy playing in a mans world. Issue a gun license to a 20something with a big head and too much money for his age - this is what happens! I am a gun owner and pains me that any fool in this country can get a gun license as long as he has no criminal record. The fact that he is famous makes this such a big thing - this happens daily in S.A!! Licensed gun owners being reckless with firearms. Because of him and idiots like him, the select few responsible ones suffer. This will see gun laws getting even stricter and we sportsmen will find it difficult to keep and/or obtain licenses. Trigger happy boys with dangerous toys!! Its not murder, its stupidity combined with immaturity!!
Ermmm in the Dogging section???? You wanna shoot potential doggers???
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Ermmm in the Dogging section???? You wanna shoot potential doggers???

Not posted in the dogging section. I don't how they allocate posts to sections but I have found my posts in very odd sections before. My post about what happened my girlfriend and daughter ended up in the "lets meet up" section??? Posted once about profiled and their pics and that ended up in the "flirts this way" section... I always use the "anything goes" section..
Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.
Never happens to me, but reading about guns in the forum on a swinging site let me worry.
Oscar who?
Did you know that when a registered gun owner passes away his firearm 'disappears', ie no follow-up is ever done by the authorities as to who now has said 'piece' in their posession, it vanishes into a 'black hole'!! So much for effective gun control!
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Did you know that when a registered gun owner passes away his firearm 'disappears', ie no follow-up is ever done by the authorities as to who now has said 'piece' in their posession, it vanishes into a 'black hole'!! So much for effective gun control!

They should put the guy's from TV licences on this . . . but now I have to say it, we talk about sex here people, and unless we have a story to share about sex including firearms . . . . . .
They should put the guy's from TV licences on this . . . but now I have to say it, we talk about sex here people, and unless we have a story to share about sex including firearms . . . . . .
I have a loaded 45 in my shorts!
ProfilePM They should put the guy's from TV licences on this . . . but now I have to say it, we talk about sex here people, and unless we have a story to share about sex including firearms . . . . . . I have a loaded 45 in my shorts! Advertising you only have a 4.5" dick might not be the best idea dude . . . banghead:haha:
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Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.

Nope not jinxed, he is just stamina lol
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Did you know that when a registered gun owner passes away his firearm 'disappears', ie no follow-up is ever done by the authorities as to who now has said 'piece' in their posession, it vanishes into a 'black hole'!! So much for effective gun control!

I have two firearms in my safe that belonged to my uncle who was murdered 6 years ago. His wife (my aunt) does not want them and has no place to store them. I have been unsuccessful in obtaining licenses for them. She has the letter from the Executer of estate. They say that she does not have the authority to sign page 5 of the my application (the previous owner transfer section). Only the original owner has that authority... Er, the original owner is DEAD!!! So now they lie here in my safe unlicensed. I refuse to hand them in as they are valuable weapons, the authorities refuse to license them. Gun control up to shit in this country. I have many firearms. All secure in a large safe and only I have a key. Nobody in my household has access. I carry one gun at a time. Have never pulled my gun on anybody in anger. Responsibility is not difficult...
Hey Stamina, try getting the licences done in another municipal area. It's your local peeps that are fulofit. My husband managed to get a rifle from an estate sale a couple of years ago. The previous owner was also murdered.
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Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.

Nope not jinxed, he is just stamina lol
rotflmao shear genius :rotflmao:
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Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.

Nope not jinxed, he is just stamina lol
rotflmao shear genius :rotflmao:
Its a curse... I have so much bad luck that I now break mirrors and walk under ladders just to tempt fate. He he he
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Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.

Nope not jinxed, he is just stamina lol
rotflmao shear genius :rotflmao:
Its a curse... I have so much bad luck that I now break mirrors and walk under ladders just to tempt fate. He he he
it has been proven over and over again, that as soon as one realises that they have to do certain things in certain ways, that bad luck stops almost immediately . . . . . :grin:
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Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.

Nope not jinxed, he is just stamina lol
rotflmao shear genius :rotflmao:
Its a curse... I have so much bad luck that I now break mirrors and walk under ladders just to tempt fate. He he he
it has been proven over and over again, that as soon as one realises that they have to do certain things in certain ways, that bad luck stops almost immediately . . . . . :grin:
Let me see if I follow you... When one gets electrocuted from inserting ones pinky into a plug socket, it is not bad luck that caused the electrocution?
You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously? But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor! Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

Give a serious topic (site related) and we will show you just how serious we can take things.
remember, my challenge to you is site related (in other words, sex and swinging) not race, religion, politics, crime, entertainment, etc etc . . . .
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Ohhhhh never happened to me before....maybe you are jinxed.

Nope not jinxed, he is just stamina lol
rotflmao shear genius :rotflmao:
Its a curse... I have so much bad luck that I now break mirrors and walk under ladders just to tempt fate. He he he
it has been proven over and over again, that as soon as one realises that they have to do certain things in certain ways, that bad luck stops almost immediately . . . . . :grin:
Let me see if I follow you... When one gets electrocuted from inserting ones pinky into a plug socket, it is not bad luck that caused the electrocution?
@Stamina, NO . . . in today's age, it is usually because trades are earned in a third of the time it used to take, but I am afraid it is not "bad luck" . . . .
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

There is comedy in everything, you just have to see it. What is weird is that this is me and SDMR when we are sober! Imagine us around a table at a pub with 10 beers in the liver...
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

Give a serious topic (site related) and we will show you just how serious we can take things.
remember, my challenge to you is site related (in other words, sex and swinging) not race, religion, politics, crime, entertainment, etc etc . . . .
@SDMR. Do you really think we should take up that challenge? I am less optimistic about you and me being able to keep it serious for long. I believe we incapable of keeping things serious and its a fact - we are the "ThreadJackers". You do realise that is only a matter of time until AdminSteve looses patience with us and we are then in big KAK!! You are a bad influence man! My mother warned me about okes like you! lol
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

There is comedy in everything, you just have to see it. What is weird is that this is me and SDMR when we are sober! Imagine us around a table at a pub with 10 beers in the liver...
UMMMM? ? ? what is this sober thing? and can you drink it? or more importantly, can you F()@k it? lol
Ok, so I am agreeing with stamina about comedy in almost everything. Just a pity that in this country (frame of reference) that the culture installed in us, is that if someone has a different view than you, you have the right to scream out against it and call it offensive.
One could perhaps "save" themselves from feeling offended, if they expressed their particular opinions in the correct place. Now Stamina is going "HUH?" let me explain, if you are on a forum that has politics as it's main subject matter, and you start talking about Swinging, my guess is that you would be told in no uncertain terms that you were confused and should shut up, same if you are on an entertainment forum and you start talking about health care . . . . so why oh why people, do we want to debate shit like firearms, politics, racism etc etc etc on Swinging Heaven . . . . here, we talk about dicks, pussies, boobs, bodies, cum, fluids, squirting, sucking, licking, moaning, groaning, orgasm's, threesomes, group sex, and of course unachievable fantasies . . . . go onto those other forums and have your debates with like minded people and have your sexual debates on this forum with like minded people
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

Give a serious topic (site related) and we will show you just how serious we can take things.
remember, my challenge to you is site related (in other words, sex and swinging) not race, religion, politics, crime, entertainment, etc etc . . . .
@SDMR. Do you really think we should take up that challenge? I am less optimistic about you and me being able to keep it serious for long. I believe we incapable of keeping things serious and its a fact - we are the "ThreadJackers". You do realise that is only a matter of time until AdminSteve looses patience with us and we are then in big KAK!! You are a bad influence man! My mother warned me about okes like you! lol
@Stamina, every now and then, a man has to prove to those around him that he is actually a grown up. RIGHT, enough of that bollocks . . . :lol: every thread that has been ThreadJacked by either you or I (and we are not the only jackers on here) has been Jacked because it was dry, or it was getting aggressive, or someone had been looking for a fight. That and you and I contribute the large majority to the thread, most people who get involved, only get involved to complain about the Jacking. (NOTE: I said most, not all)
To date (as far as I am aware) I have only stepped out of line as far as rules are concerned maybe once or twice (got a spanking too) and I have no doubt that if either you or I step out of line again, the same will happen. So, until then. . . . . serious threads will be dealt with in a serious light, until they go off topic / course.
Oh, and I am NOT the kind of person your mother warned you about, I AM THE PERSON YOUR MOTHER WARNED YOU ABOUT
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

Give a serious topic (site related) and we will show you just how serious we can take things.
remember, my challenge to you is site related (in other words, sex and swinging) not race, religion, politics, crime, entertainment, etc etc . . . .
@SDMR. Do you really think we should take up that challenge? I am less optimistic about you and me being able to keep it serious for long. I believe we incapable of keeping things serious and its a fact - we are the "ThreadJackers". You do realise that is only a matter of time until AdminSteve looses patience with us and we are then in big KAK!! You are a bad influence man! My mother warned me about okes like you! lol
@Stamina, every now and then, a man has to prove to those around him that he is actually a grown up. RIGHT, enough of that bollocks . . . :lol: every thread that has been ThreadJacked by either you or I (and we are not the only jackers on here) has been Jacked because it was dry, or it was getting aggressive, or someone had been looking for a fight. That and you and I contribute the large majority to the thread, most people who get involved, only get involved to complain about the Jacking. (NOTE: I said most, not all)
To date (as far as I am aware) I have only stepped out of line as far as rules are concerned maybe once or twice (got a spanking too) and I have no doubt that if either you or I step out of line again, the same will happen. So, until then. . . . . serious threads will be dealt with in a serious light, until they go off topic / course.
Oh, and I am NOT the kind of person your mother warned you about, I AM THE PERSON YOUR MOTHER WARNED YOU ABOUT
I think I should take out life insurance and then we must definitely meet for a beer one day...
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I think I should take out life insurance and then we must definitely meet for a beer one day...

Gee, what kind of Beer do they serve there on the East Rand that you need Life Insurance????
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You guys are just so full of shit, can' you ever take anything seriously?
But I guess that's what keeps me coming back to read your crap, my warped sense of humor!
Naughty by nature, kinky by choice!

There is comedy in everything, you just have to see it. What is weird is that this is me and SDMR when we are sober! Imagine us around a table at a pub with 10 beers in the liver...
UMMMM? ? ? what is this sober thing? and can you drink it? or more importantly, can you F()@k it? lol
Ok, so I am agreeing with stamina about comedy in almost everything. Just a pity that in this country (frame of reference) that the culture installed in us, is that if someone has a different view than you, you have the right to scream out against it and call it offensive.
One could perhaps "save" themselves from feeling offended, if they expressed their particular opinions in the correct place. Now Stamina is going "HUH?" let me explain, if you are on a forum that has politics as it's main subject matter, and you start talking about Swinging, my guess is that you would be told in no uncertain terms that you were confused and should shut up, same if you are on an entertainment forum and you start talking about health care . . . . so why oh why people, do we want to debate shit like firearms, politics, racism etc etc etc on Swinging Heaven . . . . here, we talk about dicks, pussies, boobs, bodies, cum, fluids, squirting, sucking, licking, moaning, groaning, orgasm's, threesomes, group sex, and of course unachievable fantasies . . . . go onto those other forums and have your debates with like minded people and have your sexual debates on this forum with like minded people
Wait, hold on... I agree to an extent that discuss certain things in places with certain people, likeminded etc... But (yes, there is always a but)... I don't want to sound all mushy and that but I have found friends in you guys. I would love to spend hours socializing with all of you, discussing a vast array of topics and making general conversation. I am a very social person and I never shut up. I love convo and visit and chat for hours. Unfortunately, we all live worlds apart and meeting is a long shot. That means that I will have be a friend online only. The point I am getting at is that I discuss anything that I have on my mind at that moment or have been thinking about. Not always for the purpose of hearing other opinions but sometimes just to "chat" about it. Bottom line, whether you all like it or not, you are my buddies and I am here to stay. Friends converse. Besides, the fact of the matter is that we are not really getting meets out of this site and those that do, it happens few and far between. I have come to enjoy the site and talking to the members and worry less about what it does not deliver.
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Wait, hold on... I agree to an extent that discuss certain things in places with certain people, likeminded etc... But (yes, there is always a but)... I don't want to sound all mushy and that but I have found friends in you guys. I would love to spend hours socializing with all of you, discussing a vast array of topics and making general conversation. I am a very social person and I never shut up. I love convo and visit and chat for hours. Unfortunately, we all live worlds apart and meeting is a long shot. That means that I will have be a friend online only. The point I am getting at is that I discuss anything that I have on my mind at that moment or have been thinking about. Not always for the purpose of hearing other opinions but sometimes just to "chat" about it. Bottom line, whether you all like it or not, you are my buddies and I am here to stay. Friends converse. Besides, the fact of the matter is that we are not really getting meets out of this site and those that do, it happens few and far between. I have come to enjoy the site and talking to the members and worry less about what it does not deliver.

So, using it as a conversation channel . . . .I get that (well clearly, considering our behaviour) the thing is, most people see it as us not taking the topic seriously, when in reality, the topic is dead or out of place. (I wonder how many other members are reading this shite and shaking their heads, thinking, those two are at it again) Oh, and by the way, it is not the site that does not deliver young man . . . . . .
Maybe I am wrong in my thinking, perhaps a sex related site is the correct place to debate racism and politics? Should we ask the powers that be to start a poll for us to find out what everyone thinks?
Anything goes... That is the name of the folder that bears these threads. When in doubt I tend go to find the dictionary meaning of the word, as Swingers tend to be colourful with their interpretation thereof. So yes, banter full threadjacking goes and I often enjoy that too. Serious topics have a place too however. At present it seems like you guys feel that all threads needs saving from death, racism, politics, strife or something. But maybe those things have a place here too? Many of them have bearing on this lifestyle anyway. When day to day topics are discussed in my vanilla environment, I always have to be careful not to spill the beans on my horny outlook on life. Here I hope I can discuss those same topics and bear my soul and hopefully stand less judged. If not, at least my alias provides me some protection. The thing is that too much repartee in each thread clouds the value thereof and often PIB's pearls of wisdom for instance can go lost between all the chatter. So, some topics are suppose to die, others need to move slow to give people the chance to think before the comment. It makes things easier for people that are new to this. As for the origin of this thread, I do believe it has relevance to this site: Not that I know too much about the trail but did the argument between Oscar and her not supposedly start about porn? Would you describe their relationship as one built on love or lust and other more basic emotions or instinct? What do you do if you end up in a room with the wrong person, that looked so good moments before? As for hand guns, I have rarely seen them provide a positive outcome. As with well crafted knives, cars or whatever mankind can create in moments of genius I admire guns for the way they are created. I do not wish to own one but yet I feel that people that can prove that they are responsible should be allowed to. As for Oscar, I believe he would have finished the job with the bat, had he not had access to a gun. The bullets he used sickens me though and I believe they should be banned.
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Anything goes...
That is the name of the folder that bears these threads.
When in doubt I tend go to find the dictionary meaning of the word, as Swingers tend to be colourful with their interpretation thereof.
So yes, banter full threadjacking goes and I often enjoy that too.
Serious topics have a place too however.
At present it seems like you guys feel that all threads needs saving from death, racism, politics, strife or something.
But maybe those things have a place here too? Many of them have bearing on this lifestyle anyway.
When day to day topics are discussed in my vanilla environment, I always have to be careful not to spill the beans on my horny outlook on life. Here I hope I can discuss those same topics and bear my soul and hopefully stand less judged. If not, at least my alias provides me some protection.
The thing is that too much repartee in each thread clouds the value thereof and often PIB's pearls of wisdom for instance can go lost between all the chatter.
So, some topics are suppose to die, others need to move slow to give people the chance to think before the comment. It makes things easier for people that are new to this.
As for the origin of this thread, I do believe it has relevance to this site:
Not that I know too much about the trail but did the argument between Oscar and her not supposedly start about porn?
Would you describe their relationship as one built on love or lust and other more basic emotions or instinct?
What do you do if you end up in a room with the wrong person, that looked so good moments before?
As for hand guns, I have rarely seen them provide a positive outcome.
As with well crafted knives, cars or whatever mankind can create in moments of genius I admire guns for the way they are created.
I do not wish to own one but yet I feel that people that can prove that they are responsible should be allowed to.
As for Oscar, I believe he would have finished the job with the bat, had he not had access to a gun.
The bullets he used sickens me though and I believe they should be banned.

I use those very same rounds. Black Talons are not just a a round used for devastating effects and maximum damage, but they are actually very high quality cartridges. As with any product, you get low quality and high quality bullets. "Cheap" bullets can (and often do) misfire, in a life threatening situation - the last thing you want is the gun going "click" while 3 men armed with panga's are running towards you... My carry gun is a .45, that canon of a hand gun combined with Black Talons equals "stopping power". That means that I do not have to use lethal force to stop an attacker, a shot in the shoulder or even the leg would instantly incapacitate without fatal outcome. Basically, the rounds used are no more "dangerous" than any other rounds. There are many brands of hollow points on the market, hollow points are better for personal protection because the slow down instantly after hitting soft substances. This reduces the possibility of the bullet continuing after hitting the target. So yes, I have those same brand rounds in my firearm for the simple reason of "instant incapacitation" of an attacker. Full metal jackets or solid tips in a small caliber for example 9mm, will NOT stop an attacker in his tracks unless a vital organ is hit. I speak from vast knowledge of firearms and calibers as well as experience. I was shot through the right thigh in 1996 when I was 18. It took 20 minutes before I realised I was shot - and not from pain, but from noticing I was sitting in pool of blood. I had to search visually for the injury. And that was with a Remington Golden Sabre round which is very similar to a Black Talon. It was a 9mm (what we "big caliber" enthusiasts call "pussy caliber")... I would never take a life with my gun if I can avoid it. A leg shot or shoulder shot with a hollow point in large caliber will stop the attack. Before you "hate" the type of round, first think about what I said above... Bearing in mind that hollow points have little effect on solid substances like bone, they are only effective in soft substances like flesh. A full metal jacket or solid point will penetrate a skull and pass through leaving the skull again, a hollow point may implode or close up on impact and can very often then not penetrate the skull, and the person can actually survive the gunshot to the head. Solid tile travel further and can cause collateral damage. You do not want your bullets hitting innocent bystanders behind your intended target. Hence, hollow points are used. Again, most hollow point rounds are manufactured by reputable companies and are generally higher quality than your average "range rounds" available cheap at your local gun store.
Guns 101... He he he.