PIB, I am under the impression that the main difference between the Taoist and Tantric massage is that the Taoist massage remains outside the body, and the energy movement is slightly different.
The tantric massage I went for included a Yoni Massage. WOW! I am going again this week for another session :twisted:
I want to learn more about this stuff. I have been attuned to Reiki 1, so I pick up on certain energies fairly well.
When K went for his second Taoist massage, I was invited to sit in. I could feel their energy movements, it was such a strange sensation. I sat in the corner with my eyes closed, and *felt* their massage. It sounds very strange and *out there* but, it was very cool to experience their energy work without being *part* of it.
We have definitely grown together a lot since we began this massage journey. It has opened us up to many different ideas and possibilities.... and swinging/threesomes is just one of the branches that has opened up since then.
We are planning on having a learning session where our masseuse is going to teach us about expanded orgasms. I CAN'T WAIT! She says it is easier to do expanded orgasms on each other, than to do the full taoist massage...
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I forgot to mention that after our initial Taosit massages, our masseuse gave us homework:
we were to set aside time for massage. Either massaging eachother in a very slow sensual manner, or to simply give ourselves a slow, sensual massage.
We now give each other regular massages, most of them end in very wild sex!
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A 4-6 handed massage does sound phenomenal!
A colleague of mine recommended that we go for a sensual taosit massage.
We found a wonderful woman who does taoist and tantric massage, and we each went for a taoist massage.
WOW!
She uses very gentle touch massage, and works with sexual energy.
Your eyes are closed for the duration of the massage. The sensations that move through your body are very intense, and it feels like she has more than 2 hands, as you feel sensations in many places at one time...
What an amazing experience! There were very pleasurable tingly sensations moving around my body from the beginning to the end of the massage. For the Taoist massage, all bodywork is external, and every part of you gets worked on.
Wonderful!
We went seperately a week apart, and both thoroughly enjoyed it! The sex after the massages changed! It is difficult to describe exactly how, but things were definitely more intense!
Since then, we have been back for more taoist massages, and I went for a tantric massage, which involves an internal element. Very pleasurable!
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PIB! Lady, if you can go! GO!
Volunteer your knowledge! and watch as many stage shows as you can!!!!
Sadly, backstage was Very tame! The other lady and I were told to wait in the wings for the lap dance, so all we saw was sexy men oiling up backstage, and them rushing past us in their g-strings to put on the uniform for the next item...
I was still quite shy, and didnt reach out and touch the gorgeous men rushing past me wearing next-to-nothing!
I hired one of them for my bachelorette party....
HOT! I dont think there was a dry crotch in the room when he was done with his set...
My mother-in-law had her camera on burst, so its like watching a slow-motion video.... *sigh* I think I am going to look at those pics again...
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We are 'regulars' at SEXPO JHB every year!
For us, SEXPO is an awesome place to shop around for new toys, see what's out there...
There are always specials on condoms and lube, so we normally stock up for the year :twisted:
For me, I LOVE watching the stage shows. There are male dancers, female dancers, pole dancing, strip shows and a few other things each year... one year I volunteered for a lap dance from the male dancers... the only problem with the lap dance, is that it is at the end of the set. This meant, I was backstage for the whole set and missed the sexy men doing their thing... and K was left in the audience watching the show! The lap dance was worth it though!
Lasy year the KINK scene really took off! So many stalls had a bunch of BDSM paraphenalia! It was awesome! There was even a KINKS BDSM Lounge. It was great!
What about you guys? Who has been to a SEXPO? Did you go back the next year?
What part of SEXPO do you enjoy, or what part did you not enjoy?
I love looking at well thought-out tattoos, and can really appreciate the art work in some really well-done tats.
I have a thing for tattoos that are placed on a woman's hips, that 'move with her'... There are some amazing examples in the international Belly Dance industry. Youtube Rachel Brice or Zoe Jakes to see what I mean...
I have a huge fear of needles, so no tats for me.
When I was 16, I was rebellious enough to over look my fear of needles long enough to get a belly ring. I love it, but definitely the last piercing I can see myself getting!
Having different body clocks does make it difficult to always find the right time.
I am the morning person in our relationship, and K is the night person... which means weekends are the best for daytime sex when we are both awake...
But I need sex more than just on weekends!
We have a little arrangement based on our energy levels...
As I am awake in the mornings, morning sex before work is my 'responsibility' for lack of a better word. Evening sex is his, when he has more energy... This simply means that I initiate morning sessions more often, and agree to do most of the 'work', and he initiates the evening sessions, where he does most of the work.
We obviously can't always be on the same page, and are able to say "not now love" and have to simply please ourselves for that moment. At these times, watching each other self-pleasure does often end in a quickie anyway....
It never feels like we are pressured into having sex just because the other person is horny, I have a variety of toys to help me along when K is needing those extra 20minutes of sleep in the morning...
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C Well, reading your post, I get the sense that you are not quite comfortable with the situation.
However, you are not sure about whether having sex with your willing sister is 'wrong', hence the topic?
Also, you said it was wierd just watching her with your brother in law.... what made it wierd for you? Was it because she was your sister, or for a different reason?
Just because she wants to, doesn't mean you have to.
Not sure if any of this is actually helpful ;)
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Being a dancer myself, I love it when a prospective partner can move seductively to the music....
I didn't realise how much of a thing I had for dancers until a closer encounter with a male stripper.... mmmm that man could move! All he had to do was ask, and I would have been his... ;)
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C This is an awkward moment we had of how K_ and my father met…
K_ and I had recently started dating after a while of serious flirting. I was still a teenager, and living at home with the parentals… My parents decided that I shouldn't have a key to my room 'in case I lock myself in there with boys'.
We were in my room, and were having a very heating session of general playing around…
At one point, we were both naked, K_ was sitting on the edge of the bed and I was kneeling on the floor sucking his cock. The layout of the room is important here. As you open the door to the bedroom, there is a desk against the wall to the left, and the foot of the bed to the right….
My dad was not aware that I had company – he thought K's car belonged to my mom's friend…
He opened the door saying he wanted to talk about something… and I couldn't speak as my mouth was full.
Anyway, he quickly said 'oh, you're busy' and closed the door…
After we composed ourselves, K still had to introduce himself to my father… As we walked down the passage, K noticed all the awards on the wall of when my dad used to do Judo (Black belt, 2nd dan).
Strangely enough, my dad didn't kill him…. And now we are married.
@Lee, you put into words what I was thinking.
I am already married, with a wonderful cock-on-demand, so I am not desperate...
I am happy to chat to people, and hear about their stories... its how I begin to decide whether they are an option for a meet or not...
I want to be seduced by intelligence and charm, and being defensive and rude is not attractive. As soon as he said that, he went from being a maybe to a NOPE.
Something that I have noticed while in the chat room, is how some guys make race an issue when it hadn't crossed my mind.
Here is an example:
after the basic hi, how are you's
him: do you like the look of my cock?
me: it looks nice
him: would you suck it?
me: maybe
him:is it because im indian/balck/coloured that its only maybe?
He doesn't even ask why its only maybe, he just assumes that because I'm white I wont suck his cock.
Maybe I'm chatting 'wrong', but I never asked for a cyber-sex conversation, so I'm not participating in the ooh-yes-cum-all-over-me conversation.
Would I suck his cock?
Maybe, if I decided that he was a cool guy, and he got me excited. I'm not going to suck you cock if your don't turn me on.
As LeeEC stated in a different post, ladies are much fussier about who we shag, and for me, race has less to do with it than personality.
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C Earlier this year I had the privilege of visiting the Citadel of a Dominatrix.
The walls of her dungeon are covered in kink paraphernalia, very much like how PIB describes her garage!
The walls are separated into different sections, each section with its own theme.
The first section is covered in a variety of masks, and then came the whips. I was fascinated by the different materials that were used as the tails. There were short whips and long whips. I loved the feel of the velvet tails in my hand, and imagined it would feel quite nice if used correctly, but didn't take her up on her offer to let me try it....
Then there were canes of different widths, then the paddle section. Here there was everything from hairbrushes, wooden spoons, shoes, horse crops.... I can't even remember it all. Then there were the silk ties, all different colours and lengths of silk.
She had a variety of different rooms, the dungeon, a jail, a classroom, a feminisation parlour and a medical room. The medical room had all sorts of things, from needles to enemas, and pretty much everything of this category that PIB has listed.
I thoroughly enjoyed the visit. I finally got to see all the dungeon contraptions that I have been reading about, and match physical objects to written descriptions.
Maybe one day PIB will let me watch a demonstration of how to use some of her 'toys' ;)
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C I tried poppers once, it just gave me a Moorse headache!
A good erotic story is a great aphrodiziac for me!
Getting naughty messages throughout the day from K_, telling me what is going to happen later.... well... lets just say that by the time he gets home.... I'm ready and wanting ;)
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C Over the years we have gathered a small collection of toys.
We currently have two favourites:
The Roger-Rabbit type toy. This wonderful thing provides both internal and external stimulation. The shaft has beads around it, and can be 'turned on' to move in a circular motion (which can change direction ). Great stimulation for the entrance of the vagina :)
The 'rabbit' vibrates against the clit.
This is great for when hubby is still sleeping, or when I'm home alone... The downsides to this toy is that the clit vibrator only has two settings - high and low; and it uses 4 batteries!!!!
A Lelo clit stimulator. This is a small egg shaped vibe which has different speed settings and 4 different pulse settings.
This toy is amazingly small and fits in the palm of your hand, and against the vulva. Ideal for clit stimulation during doggy or any position where you can hold it against against your pussy :) This toy is waterproof and is rechargeable! Love it!
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). Great stimulation for the entrance of the vagina :)
The 'rabbit' vibrates against the clit.
This is great for when hubby is still sleeping, or when I'm home alone... The downsides to this toy is that the clit vibrator only has two settings - high and low; and it uses 4 batteries!!!!
A Lelo clit stimulator. This is a small egg shaped vibe which has different speed settings and 4 different pulse settings.
This toy is amazingly small and fits in the palm of your hand, and against the vulva. Ideal for clit stimulation during doggy or any position where you can hold it against against your pussy :) This toy is waterproof and is rechargeable! Love it!
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C Hi Just_a_lover,
Yes we used Sensitive.
Thanks PIB, if he is still tender tonight I will put a cold wet facecloth on him.
I am hoping all is well by tonight!
He waxed the top area, up to the base of his penis. Which went ok. He said the application of the wax, was worse than the pull. We used the "cold" wax which you remove with the little sheets. But waxing scrotum..... no.
Thats why we decided to use the Veet.
Now we know, maybe 8 minutes is too long ;)
I was thinking just now, would the fact that his hairs are blond have any effect on the length of time the cream would need?
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C_ Last night K_ decided to Veet his balls and crack
Within 8 minutes he said the cream started to itch, and we removed it. (We were going on Just_a_lover's 13 minute mark ;) )
He wiped it all away and rinsed as soon as the itch started.
I was looking forward to playing with hairless balls - but sadly he was all red and tender and didn't want any tongue action 
Hopefully by tonight, the tenderness will have subsided, and I get to play...
We did do a sensitivity test on his scrotum, and the test was fine! The skin closer to his thighs and under his balls is where he is now tender....
Looks great though ;)
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Within 8 minutes he said the cream started to itch, and we removed it. (We were going on Just_a_lover's 13 minute mark ;) )
He wiped it all away and rinsed as soon as the itch started.
I was looking forward to playing with hairless balls - but sadly he was all red and tender and didn't want any tongue action
Hopefully by tonight, the tenderness will have subsided, and I get to play...
We did do a sensitivity test on his scrotum, and the test was fine! The skin closer to his thighs and under his balls is where he is now tender....
Looks great though ;)
C We joined the site after a rather disappointing non-encounter.
I had met this extremely sexy guy, who got my juices flowing. K_ encouraged me to see how far I could take our chats. From the beginning it was very obvious that *if* anything materialised, K_ would be watching and/or participating in the action. We set a date and the excitement began to build even more.
Two nights before the date, he began asking if I was willing to break our rule for him, so we could have one night alone. I told him that under no circumstances was that going to happen. The only reason this conversation was happening in the first place, was because of our golden rule: 'Do what you want, with whomever you want, as long as I am watching and/or participating'. He finally said that he understood, and the rule was there for a reason.
The day of the *date*, we still had to agree on a time and give him our address… he never responded to any messages and didn't answer his phone. We have decided that the reason he didn't respond, is that the idea of being watched freaked him out.
After some discussion, we decided to join a swinging site, with the expectation being that if we find someone we like, there is an understanding about being watched from the get go. Also, by virtue of being on this site, we expected that people would get a kick out of being watched, as opposed to being scared away by that requirement.
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C Sadly, this article seems like the typical kind of misinformation that is found in women's mags...
Although some of the points are valid, such as Doggy being too deep, and the adjustments making it more pleasurable, I feel like these points are put into a context which says that all women want an intimate connection during sex. It doesn't take into consideration how women are different, and have different wants at different times, and that we all come from different backgrounds which colour our current experiences...
Another valid point is that women feel uncomfortable in cerain positions due to body image issues.... well, if the position makes you uncomfortable, simple don't do it! You definitely will not be enjoying the sensations if your are constantly thinking about how your parts look...
BUT, many women find these kinds of positions both extremely pleasurable and empowering, as they can control the movement, and adjust it to suit their needs for that moment.
The comment on the 69 is kinda true for me, but not for the reason they give.
When I am receiving oral pleasure, the last thing I am thinking about it pleasuring my partner.... not the other way around. What usually happens is me just holding his penis in my hand/mouth while I enjoy my sensations, and then, when given a breather, can concentrate on him.... So the taking turns thing does work better..for me. That is not to say that ALL women feel this way, which is how I read the article.
Just my thoughts
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Cowgirl and scissors are my favourites.
Funny you mention that PiB, I have to ask K to lie still so I CAN do some work in the cowgirl position. When he starts adding to the mix, it feels more like I am going with the flow rather than doing my share ;)
Doggy is awesome, especially when I hold a small vibrator against my clit....
Reverse Cowgirl is also great... yes Kitty, you can see his toes curl ;)
PIB Standing up sex doesnt work for me either!
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Funny you mention that PiB, I have to ask K to lie still so I CAN do some work in the cowgirl position. When he starts adding to the mix, it feels more like I am going with the flow rather than doing my share ;)
Doggy is awesome, especially when I hold a small vibrator against my clit....
Reverse Cowgirl is also great... yes Kitty, you can see his toes curl ;)
PIB Standing up sex doesnt work for me either!
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@Gerrie, thanks for the info.
We have just got back from a camping trip, so I haven't had a chance to read the links yet.
I wholeheartedly agree with what your quote says about state of mind!
One of the main reasons I believe I can squirt with K is because of the way he makes me feel on an emotional level.
All the previous partners put pressure on me to match their expectations of what women do in bed... which never allowed me the freedom to explore my own sexuality. That being said, I would NEVER fake pleasure. Why give someone a gold medal when they shouldn't even be a finalist in the competition!
K_ provides the safe space for me to explore my sexuality, and all of a sudden I could squirt during intercourse, and not just when I was self-pleasuring on my own.
@PIB and Kitty
You are NOT defective in any way!
Please do not compare your experiences with someone else's story. You could miss out on all the great things happening in your experience, while waiting for the mystical "something" to happen to you! You never know what those other people *me included* have not experienced, which for you may be the most natural thing in the world.
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@Gerrie, I always pee before we start, for the same reason as PIB - I don't want to interrupt a hot session to go to the loo!
With regards to the feeling of needing to pee - squirting for me feels completely different to unrination.
How do I do it? I honestly have no idea!
It never happened during intercourse before K, so maybe he is the *magic ingredient*?
I do know that, for me, it happens with G-spot stimulation. Certain positions work better than others... For example, in doggy... my toes get wet.... or when I am on top, my cum runs down his balls...
When pleasuring myself, a few magic strokes on my G-spot turns the taps on... Sometimes K positions his head strategically so that he can swallow as much as he can.
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C Well… I am lucky enough to be married to a squirter.
I swallow as much as I can, which isn't that easy because she normally squirts during intercourse, and I'm not always keen to interrupt the flow of things to get a mouthful.
The bed does end up with lots of wet spots, as you can't always plan ahead and put towels down, especially when the session started off with the intention of being a quickie. But once she started squirting, you want to keep going until she has none left, and just when you think she is all out, *boom* there's more :giveup:.
Love is… sleeping on the wet spot ;)
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Gerrie, Please do share your story once you have tried waxing!
PIB, I am scared of Veet. Mainly because of the reviews I have found for Veet for Men here: As a teenager I once used Veet on my legs. The smell really turned me off using it ever again!
The way in which Veet and other hair removal creams work, is by using a chemical mixture which *dissolves* the hair. The idea of putting those chemicals anywhere my sensitive lips makes me cringe with fear!
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I have tried waxing, clippers and shaving.
Shaving
Shaving is great....but having sex when it starts to grow back hurts me! When the movement goes against the grain, sex in certain positions is not enjoyable. So when K_ and I started dating, and sex became very regular, I stopped shaving.
When we had our first threesome, the lady was clean shaven. Both K_ and I spent a fair amount of time licking her. The next morning, both of our tongues were sensitive from licking the slight stuble from her shave...
At one point, K_ also started shaving. Playing with clean shaven balls was great fun, but the spiky regrowth tickled me so much that sex became almost impossible!
Clippers
So after I decided to stop shaving, I had to prevent what PIB calls 70s bush! Waxing was a very scary idea. So i took out the clippers, and tried awkward positions to trim the bush. More than once, a lip got snipped. PAINFUL!!!
Waxing
I did a whole bunch of reading on how to make bikini waxing less painful. The most common advice I found was to trim before the wax, but not to close too the skin, else the wax does not work... So I trimmed, and went for my first bikini wax.
The application of the hot wax I found more painful than the pulling! My word! Once the hair had been removed, it felt amazing! Softer and smoother than *just shaved*. Also, the effects last much longer than shaving. The only issue with waxing, is that it has to grow out a bit before it can be repeated.
Another issue with waxing is that, it takes loads of courage to actually get it all waxed off at once. It took a few years of "lets take a little bit more off" to get to a point where my body is now accustomed to the pain of the hot wax closer to the lips...
For years, K_ has said that one day I can get him waxed, but finding a beautician who is comfortable working on men's genital areas has been a challenge. (The ones I have found have quoted nearly 4 times what my beautician charges!!)
Another issue with this is, I KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS, and I have difficulty putting him into a situation where I know how painful the first wax is!
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Shaving
Shaving is great....but having sex when it starts to grow back hurts me! When the movement goes against the grain, sex in certain positions is not enjoyable. So when K_ and I started dating, and sex became very regular, I stopped shaving.
When we had our first threesome, the lady was clean shaven. Both K_ and I spent a fair amount of time licking her. The next morning, both of our tongues were sensitive from licking the slight stuble from her shave...
At one point, K_ also started shaving. Playing with clean shaven balls was great fun, but the spiky regrowth tickled me so much that sex became almost impossible!
Clippers
So after I decided to stop shaving, I had to prevent what PIB calls 70s bush! Waxing was a very scary idea. So i took out the clippers, and tried awkward positions to trim the bush. More than once, a lip got snipped. PAINFUL!!!
Waxing
I did a whole bunch of reading on how to make bikini waxing less painful. The most common advice I found was to trim before the wax, but not to close too the skin, else the wax does not work... So I trimmed, and went for my first bikini wax.
The application of the hot wax I found more painful than the pulling! My word! Once the hair had been removed, it felt amazing! Softer and smoother than *just shaved*. Also, the effects last much longer than shaving. The only issue with waxing, is that it has to grow out a bit before it can be repeated.
Another issue with waxing is that, it takes loads of courage to actually get it all waxed off at once. It took a few years of "lets take a little bit more off" to get to a point where my body is now accustomed to the pain of the hot wax closer to the lips...
For years, K_ has said that one day I can get him waxed, but finding a beautician who is comfortable working on men's genital areas has been a challenge. (The ones I have found have quoted nearly 4 times what my beautician charges!!)
Another issue with this is, I KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS, and I have difficulty putting him into a situation where I know how painful the first wax is!
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