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Dogging at Emmarentia 29th August - lessons to be learnt?

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Someone (another anonymous post, unfortunately) posted an "advert" on the Dogging Locations / Gauteng page on 29th August that his GF wanted to be gang-banged that night by 10 guys, and he proceeded to set up a meet at Emmarentia for this to happen. He must be seriously commended for trying to make something happen!! We need a lot more positive people like this, prepared to get out there and do something, for dogging to become a reality in South Africa!
I am keen to know if anything did ACTUALLY happen or not, or if the couple ended up waiting in vain at the designated spot at the designated time (23h00), and then eventually just had to do their own thing anyway? If something DID happen, this would be great news for the aspirant Gauteng dogging community!! But somehow I have my doubts about this having materialised, for a number of reasons.... But maybe I'm just too cautious and hyper-critical? Perhaps we can learn some lessons from this that might help to increase the success rate for future events, as the weather improves and outdoor dogging season is upon us? wink
1. The advert was placed under the Dogging Locations menu. This seems to be happening to an increasing extent, even though it does not really seem an appropriate vehicle. I have learned to monitor the Dogging Locations menu regularly, but I am not sure that this is the most effective place (in terms of reaching your target audience) to announce a "limited duration" activity, due to non-contactability. Or is it? Maybe I am misguided?
2. The advert was placed (or only released?) in the afternoon for an activity planned for THAT same night. I believe this seriously limits your chances of getting many "views" of your advert, which then drastically reduces your chances if you want to get a big group together. Perhaps a little more "advance notice" would help?
3. The advert was posted anonymously (maybe intentionally, but I think a lot of folks haven't worked out that if you post something on the Dogging Locations page, your signature is not automatically attached, and the poster cannot be identified or contacted). I would have liked to contact the poster, to confirm my intention to get involved, and to get more details about access to the site. So I needed to have the poster's site name in order to make contact, but didn't have it.
4. The access point to the site is described as "the hole in the fence where the dogwalkers enter". I went to do a recce of the site earlier in the evening, and no-where along the area mentioned (Beyers Naude Drive boundary) could I find a hole in the fence. If I couldn't find it at 6:30pm when the area was only slightly dodgy to park and walk around in, I'm wondering how many guys were able to find it at 11 pm when the area would be even more dodgy, and guys walking up and down the fenceline looking for a hole could easily be the target of unwanted attention, by cops or other undesirables. And if you can't find the starting point, you haven't a hope in hell of following the rest of the directions.....
5. Then the meeting place would be "at the trees" about 500m away, and unfortunately there are a LOT of trees in the park at Emmarentia. So the area to head towards, assuming you could find the entrance hole in the fence, was rather vague...
It's obvious that the poster knows the area, and knew exactly where he intended to have the meet happen. But not everyone who (fortuitously) sees the advert, and is able to respond (at short notice), necessarily knows the area as well as him, and I expect many could have given up after not being able to find the starting point...
But I would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised, and find out that a group of guys WERE able to find out about the event in time, and then DID find the expectant couple at the designated spot, and that there were a lot of happy people afterwards!!!!! If you were the poster of the "advert" or a participant (or wanna-be participant) at this event, I would love to hear from you, either here on the forum, or by means of a PM. To the dude who posted the advert, I'm NOT knocking you! I commend you for your gumption!!!! (but at the same time am hoping to increase the success rate for dogging events such as this)
I would also like to hear views from others interested in dogging, as to whether you think a meet like this could in fact work out, or how we could more effectively arrange dogging meets.
There is a lot of "hit and miss" stuff posted on this site, and I think that is what results in a perceived "low success rate" for dogging events. I believe the most effective way to arrange a dogging meet is for a willing couple to post an advert, stating their intention to "go dogging", initially giving just "general" information, such as JHB / Emmarentia area, on a particular day (eg next week Wednesday, in the evening), and then invite personal messages from those interested. From the millions of responses (from all the single guys! :wink: ) they could then check profiles and decide who they would like to have join them, and THEN provide the DETAILED information about time and specific locality and meet-up arrangements only to those they have selected. This way you can limit numbers, and you are not providing detailed information in a public space (remember, this website can be monitored by folks who are not members of the site, including the fuzz and wanna-be muggers) about a planned activity, and so can avoid "unwanted responses".
Anybody else have views on this matter?
It would seem no-one else has any views on this matter! wink Perhaps dogging is meant to remain a "hit or miss affair".... Meanwhile, the anonymous (anyone wanna meet up at Horwoods / Golden Harvest / Emmarentia later today?) continue to be posted.............
Hi the dogging forum and the dogging tab is actually quite useless, first of all the info is available to anyone who finds the site, including the police, jerks, muggers and would be so easy to arrange a dogging meet and just rob everyone who turns up. Secondly people place info on the forum and it only shows hours later and then they don't leave profile names. dof hey? Suggestion is we set up a private dogging group where people are screened and they can advertise where and when they want to do it without every tom dick and harry getting the info as well.
On the UK Swinging Heaven site, their moderators actually REMOVE any reference to a specific site or any detailed dogging arrangements, out of concern for the safety of their members!! It would appear that even in UK now the crime levels are increasing, and that "doggers" are being targeted at their dogging sites by criminals and other "undesirables" who access the information on their website. Hence the suggestion that we should only be making a "general announcement of intent" on the forum, and then make the rest of the arrangements (specific place, time, type and colour of car for recognition purposes, etc) via private messages, which cannot be seen by the undesirables. As far as I can see, Forum posts show up on the Forum pretty well immediately after posting. On the Dogging menu tab, however, there is an "approval" delay, resulting in info posted there only showing "after the event" where folks have tried to make a "last minute" arrangement. I personally believe that this is an inappropriate place to be placing "advertisements". @just_a_lover, I am interested in your idea of a "private dogging group". This would certainly make dogging safer. but could also make the "group" very "exclusive". How would this group be "managed", who does the screening, and how would "advertisement" take place? You are welcome to send me a PM.
As usual, very sage words from an experienced man. Keep it up Bruce