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Well I guess everyone has the perception that single men are idiots or most of them. Though from a look at things from a single mans point of view as myself. I also find couples very offense sometimes. Why? Well see as myself I've been straight to the point from the word go. So in actual fact I was trying to find people of the same mind set. The reason I did this was to not lie or try to act as if I am something I am not. So I put up my profile, edit all the information about myself. Anyway chat to some people. Then there where 2 types of couples. People that were eager to meet and then those that give you there word but when it comes down to the real thing they step back. Not in all instances I expected to play rather some occasions meeting was just fine as I understood some people need to know the person better before anything went forward. Its just that people need to be honest with themselves firstly and then maybe they would know exactly where they stand within this lifestyle. Come on guys let's not be time wasters. Know what you want and go after it, be certain or play with the puppies on the porch. Cause if you want to roll with the big dogs you got to step of the porch.
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Well I guess everyone has the perception that single men are idiots or most of them. Though from a look at things from a single mans point of view as myself. I also find couples very offense sometimes. Why? Well see as myself I've been straight to the point from the word go. So in actual fact I was trying to find people of the same mind set. The reason I did this was to not lie or try to act as if I am something I am not. So I put up my profile, edit all the information about myself. Anyway chat to some people. Then there where 2 types of couples. People that were eager to meet and then those that give you there word but when it comes down to the real thing they step back. Not in all instances I expected to play rather some occasions meeting was just fine as I understood some people need to know the person better before anything went forward. Its just that people need to be honest with themselves firstly and then maybe they would know exactly where they stand within this lifestyle. Come on guys let's not be time wasters. Know what you want and go after it, be certain or play with the puppies on the porch. Cause if you want to roll with the big dogs you got to step of the porch.

A very hard post to read without loosing interest - one long long sentence.
That said, some valid points which appear over and over in the Forum. Sometimes it's best concentrating on the people that you chat with albeit here in the Forum or in the Chatroom - that in itself should lead to better experiences.
It is what it is...
Judging by your profile it looks like you only play when you're out of town and so i can understand why couples would hesitate to play with you.
I have never done this before. So I just decided while I was away that I would make a profile so now my profile is ongoing.
If anyone doesn't understand what Playcouple is getting at - please read their profile. It spells it out for you and if you still don't understand then maybe you are on the wrong site. We have chatted with so many couples who say they have been on the site for years and still haven't played. Well said Playcouple - like your style.
The biggest problem with most of the single guys on this and in fact most other sites is that you never respect the lady's rule at all. Yes you talk to the husband and all that but at the end of the day what the lady says go. Plain and simple, if you arrogant and obnoxious then expect not to meet anyone. There has been so many topics before over the same issue. Guys, this is not a place for a quick fix to get your rocks off. Go to a brothel rather. It pisses me off to read topics like this as I treat all people with decency and respect and in return get to be treated the same. Then you get these hot heads who just join, has made 3 comments and is all of a sudden the single guy guru when it comes to swinging. Change your attitude and maybe you will see a difference in the way couples might respond to you. I am tired as I'm sure a few other guys are as well that we have to defend ourselves as single guys because of these newbies that gives us all a bad reputation. Enough said!
There are people who are not serious, granted. Having an honest profile is good, having a proper one is good, but when you approach then make sure that the people who you approach have a profile that matches your requirements. This works both ways, don't just approach a couple if they have nothing on their profile, you are likely to be frustrated. (edit after some idiot cant work out it goes both ways) Also make sure that you are what they are looking for. Pick the people that you intend meeting well and you will not be wasting your time. We follow the line of 1 check the profile, tick, 2 few pm's (5 or six maybe), tick 3 webcam chat, few minutes, the purpose is TO VERIFY THE OTHER PARTY FOR YOURSELF, not to have a wank while the couple give you a show, tick 4 set up date for a drink or coffee, we can tell within a few minutes if someone is play material for us so no two year dating thing, and be honest - its about physical appeal and if you can have a conversation not if you can have kids and grow old together so this tooing and froing about maybe maybe not is crap, you either will or you wont, tick 4 sometimes go from coffee to play (but almost never) 5 set up playdate, tick 6 set up more playdates smile If at any stage there is no tick or something doesnt feel right, you walk away and stop wasting your time We play with almost every single person/couple that we meet like this and we have had almost no no-shows .........
Not. All single guys are disrespectful. Its just that those who are disrespect give the guys that are gentlemen a bad name. Its all about getting to know individuals and base your experience to that one person only. Do not let other people give you a general opinion of everyone.
This may come as a shock but... Sex is actually very difficult to get. According to what we see on TV and what we perceive to be true, it is waiting around every corner and with the Internet we further believe that it is even easier. The truth of the matter is that people are still pretty moral and decent, and selective. So sex is not just happening as easy as we believe it is (or should). Nobody is going to the local Spar for some shopping and returning home with a nympho for a quick doggystyle shag over the kitchen counter. This site and others like (and NSA hookup sites) give people a false sense that you simply advertise or respond to ads and get laid. Single guys get frustrated because it is not happening the way they expected. I personally have been disappointed for over two years (one as a single) on here with ignored messages, no shows, meets that get cancelled, etc, etc, etc... But I have come to to terms with it. I have accepted the fact that "casual sex" is a thing for movies and American College students! I have learned that you must work hard for it. Make peace with the fact that getting into bed with another man's wife or joining a couple for a steamy session or hooking up with some random female for meaningless sex on these sites is not as easy as you'd hoped. Try your best to get what you are looking for and be grateful if it happens but do not make it your ultimate mission in life - if you do then you will just set yourself up for disappointment. Don't we all wish that sex was just a click away... The Internet makes many promises but delivers on very few. In the real world, you have to work pretty damn hard to get a leg over as a single male. It's like lotto dude: You know you have little chance of winning but you buy your ticket every week...
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Don't we all wish that sex was just a click away... The Internet makes many promises but delivers on very few. In the real world, you have to work pretty damn hard to get a leg over as a single male. It's like lotto dude: You know you have little chance of winning but you buy your ticket every week...

If it was "just a click away" sites like this would not have people like us spending so much time either entertaining or being entertained by others . . . . .
Oh, and just to help you with the definition of "single male" young man, it refers to boys who do not have a permanent girl . . . . (especially ones they buy cars for) . . . . . wink
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Don't we all wish that sex was just a click away... The Internet makes many promises but delivers on very few. In the real world, you have to work pretty damn hard to get a leg over as a single male. It's like lotto dude: You know you have little chance of winning but you buy your ticket every week...

If it was "just a click away" sites like this would not have people like us spending so much time either entertaining or being entertained by others . . . . .
Oh, and just to help you with the definition of "single male" young man, it refers to boys who do not have a permanent girl . . . . (especially ones they buy cars for) . . . . . wink
AWWWWWW darn SMDR here we all thought that a "single male" refers one on one with one married guy at a time :P
@playcouple Thus why I'm single, I ain't got the cash to be donating cars for obligational sex. It's cheaper to get friendly with the wife wink
Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.
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Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.

If you're lucky... Us bitches got higher standards these days - you gotta have a maintenance plan baby or it's "Til I part us BY death !" :twisted:
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Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.

If you're lucky... Us bitches got higher standards these days - you gotta have a maintenance plan baby or it's "Til I part us BY death !" :twisted:
Lol my bad.
Cause nowdays its so hard to find that one special person who would stick with you through every obstacle that life throws. Not saying that there arn't any good woman out there. The world has changed so much that peoples main focus is on material wealth and not based on true love. Guess true love has become a boring topic nowdays lol its all about the moola.
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Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.

I suppose thats why you still single then. It will never be a once off payment. Remember when you're married whatever is hers stays hers and whatevers yours is also hers. If you married the right woman you'll be succesful but when you marry the wrong woman, then you're finished
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Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.

I suppose thats why you still single then. It will never be a once off payment. Remember when you're married whatever is hers stays hers and whatevers yours is also hers. If you married the right woman you'll be succesful but when you marry the wrong woman, then you're finished
No boet you misunderstood my reply. See when you married I understand things are done for the benefit of the relationship as a whole. So there isn't anything that is directly done just for the wife. So if you buy her a gift it contributes to the relationship enough you could also say that towards having a girlfriend. Where as a girlfriend isn't a secure investment as a wife would be. Get what I'm saying...?
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Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.

I suppose thats why you still single then. It will never be a once off payment. Remember when you're married whatever is hers stays hers and whatevers yours is also hers. If you married the right woman you'll be succesful but when you marry the wrong woman, then you're finished
No boet you misunderstood my reply. See when you married I understand things are done for the benefit of the relationship as a whole. So there isn't anything that is directly done just for the wife. So if you buy her a gift it contributes to the relationship enough you could also say that towards having a girlfriend. Where as a girlfriend isn't a secure investment as a wife would be. Get what I'm saying...?
I see what you saying. I think you just saved yourself by saying a wife would be an investment. It depends, are you keeping the investment to achieve a greater return later down the line or will it be an investment that will only mature in the event of death, disability or retrenchement?
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Cause the wife is a once off payment. Buy the ring then its 'for better or for worst, till death do us part' lol.

I suppose thats why you still single then. It will never be a once off payment. Remember when you're married whatever is hers stays hers and whatevers yours is also hers. If you married the right woman you'll be succesful but when you marry the wrong woman, then you're finished
No boet you misunderstood my reply. See when you married I understand things are done for the benefit of the relationship as a whole. So there isn't anything that is directly done just for the wife. So if you buy her a gift it contributes to the relationship enough you could also say that towards having a girlfriend. Where as a girlfriend isn't a secure investment as a wife would be. Get what I'm saying...?
I see what you saying. I think you just saved yourself by saying a wife would be an investment. It depends, are you keeping the investment to achieve a greater return later down the line or will it be an investment that will only mature in the event of death, disability or retrenchement?
Investment in terms of love and commitment. See you find it hard to understand. Probably next time I'd have to get a diagram to explain myself to you. If that doesn't work we'd probably have to suggest a special forum for slow takers.
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@playcouple
Thus why I'm single, I ain't got the cash to be donating cars for obligational sex. It's cheaper to get friendly with the wife wink

lol so if all is for free who is cheapersmile
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Investment in terms of love and commitment. See you find it hard to understand. Probably next time I'd have to get a diagram to explain myself to you. If that doesn't work we'd probably have to suggest a special forum for slow takers.

Somebody is trying to burn bridges, I would offer matches but I think you're sorted there.
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Don't we all wish that sex was just a click away... The Internet makes many promises but delivers on very few. In the real world, you have to work pretty damn hard to get a leg over as a single male. It's like lotto dude: You know you have little chance of winning but you buy your ticket every week...

If it was "just a click away" sites like this would not have people like us spending so much time either entertaining or being entertained by others . . . . .
Oh, and just to help you with the definition of "single male" young man, it refers to boys who do not have a permanent girl . . . . (especially ones they buy cars for) . . . . . wink
Yip... I guess it is time to realise that I pay a lot for some nooky!! lol :lol:
Keep in mind that the cars all actually stay mine... it works like this: The cars are all in my name, I simply say "there's a new car for you babe"... But I actually mean: "there's a new car for us"... he he he... If I had bought the new Boobs, then it would also have been for my benefit. :wink:
Ai tog... Like Stamina said...it's a lotto, sometimes Mrs will jump your bones just cause she feels like it, but mostly you'd have to suck up 10X more than me and offer as per our profile, even then she might only give u a pinkie to suck on!
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Cause nowdays its so hard to find that one special person who would stick with you through every obstacle that life throws. Not saying that there arn't any good woman out there. The world has changed so much that peoples main focus is on material wealth and not based on true love. Guess true love has become a boring topic nowdays lol its all about the moola.

I found one, good in bed and always willing and she also puts up with my shit
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petrol petrol we can offer him that now that the price has gone down ;) and when burning a bridge you only need one match, however you can never have to much petrol