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liars, fakes and cheaters

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Quote by Prezzie2120
I'm not going to get into the rights and wrongs of this. You want to cheat, fine. But do it on your own concience.
All I'm asking is that you READ MY PROFILE.
It CLEARLY states in big, "shouty" capitals "NO CHEATERS"
Firstly reading my profile is just manners and sign of respect and shows that you are actually interested in me and not answering to every female on the site
Secondly and much more importantly ...
As much as you don't want to break your wife or girlfriends heart, lying to me, wasting my time and trying to make me break my moral rules and principals is simply not cool ..
So if you want me to try tolerate your behavior the VERY LEAST is respect my personal boundries

I respect your personal boundries and opinions... But I am curious. Are you looking for love or sex? If it is love and companionship, wrong site. If it is sex, then what difference does it make if your "NSA" partner is cheating on someone? Surely it will not effect you or your pleasure in the least?
And... You say that you want guys interested in you and not those answering every female? I guarantee you that every guy here is contacting way more than just one female. It is already virtually impossible for a guy to get something here, now he must expect to get lucky by contacting only one female? Granted, a guy may have your profile at the top of a short list, but there are and always will be others - so if you "decline" him, he will just move down the list.
We would like to add: we do not judge your moral choices nor your reasons for making those choices. We would kindly request that you do not taint or disrespect our culture? ... And I am a hypocrite? All you have done in your posts aimed at me is judge!
With great enthusiasm have i been reading through many postings on even more varied subjects after discovering the Forum a few days ago, that after trawling the Personals and new Members almost religiously for months since becoming a member myself. My views on the subject and lifestyle in general is 100% aligned with the esteemed member Stamina - as I am a very similar (dis)position to him. Very much married, happy at that, with two lovely teenagers. My wife is not the swinging type, have touched on the subject and big no no. Unfortunately us humans are different and i did not know 16 years ago that i would find the lifestyle appealing! Perhaps did not even know of its existence! But here we are, and being who and what we are. Being a Leo, my motto is to always make the best of what you have as you are unlikely to change to suit all concerned. So my outlet to fullfill my (ridiculous?) desires to be physical with other women is on this and some similar sites where I believe like minded people do actually meet, and do what they want to without being judged or judging. Connection is not easily achieved and many intended meetings fail to happen, but the thrill of the chase provides some level of oxytocin release even if it only stimulates the next chase. If I stop being philosophical for a moment, I really do believe there are ladies out there who experience the same desires and their spouses may not share the ideas, so this would provide a perfect release for them as well. They might not want to risk the SINGLE suitor to become emotionally attached to them and jeopardize their own relationships. Moderators - how about creating a new category for us so called 'cheaters' who value our vanilla lives and families much more than our own (potential) happiness by finding the unicorn as a life partner? This way we (guys and girls) would not be ostracized before other "lifestylers" even take the trouble to get to know us!
Quote by Erotic_Nauty
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Now don't think this is why I agreed to join this lifestyle, it usually shocks people, but I know from the forum I'm not the only wife who actually were the one suggesting this lifestyle lol I just don't ever want to be part of the reason for that wife's pain who has to find out what their partners have been up to.
It doesn't shock me, it's smart work from a (very) clever lady - I see it as pro-active and precautionary! BUT once made, all fears of cheating must be dumped forever! And to top it all, it's a win-win situation - now both are still together and much involved!
I laaik! If I see the imbalanced numbers on the male member's side, we need to find a way to get this strategy / message to their (mine as well) ladies!!
Quote by Dondeman
With great enthusiasm have i been reading through many postings on even more varied subjects after discovering the Forum a few days ago, that after trawling the Personals and new Members almost religiously for months since becoming a member myself. My views on the subject and lifestyle in general is 100% aligned with the esteemed member Stamina - as I am a very similar (dis)position to him. Very much married, happy at that, with two lovely teenagers. My wife is not the swinging type, have touched on the subject and big no no. Unfortunately us humans are different and i did not know 16 years ago that i would find the lifestyle appealing! Perhaps did not even know of its existence!
But here we are, and being who and what we are. Being a Leo, my motto is to always make the best of what you have as you are unlikely to change to suit all concerned. So my outlet to fullfill my (ridiculous?) desires to be physical with other women is on this and some similar sites where I believe like minded people do actually meet, and do what they want to without being judged or judging. Connection is not easily achieved and many intended meetings fail to happen, but the thrill of the chase provides some level of oxytocin release even if it only stimulates the next chase.
If I stop being philosophical for a moment, I really do believe there are ladies out there who experience the same desires and their spouses may not share the ideas, so this would provide a perfect release for them as well. They might not want to risk the SINGLE suitor to become emotionally attached to them and jeopardize their own relationships.
Moderators - how about creating a new category for us so called 'cheaters' who value our vanilla lives and families much more than our own (potential) happiness by finding the unicorn as a life partner? This way we (guys and girls) would not be ostracized before other "lifestylers" even take the trouble to get to know us!

I can 'feel' (relate) where you are coming from, boet! WELCOME to the forums and keep posting!
To stay true to the lifestyler's approach (I think) - swinging and swopping etc. involves more than 2 people! Minimum of 3 and more!! (not focusing on our lovable and huggable unicorn species wink in this instance!)
This is where we are the perfect 'fit' for those certain couples that are looking for males - @Voyer1105 made it clear that this is a preference in their play!
This is why I'm attracted to SH and not all the 'other dating sites'!
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Quote by Stamina
We would like to add: we do not judge your moral choices nor your reasons for making those choices. We would kindly request that you do not taint or disrespect our culture?
... And I am a hypocrite? All you have done in your posts aimed at me is judge!

My humblist apologies for my comment above... I read it now again and it is uncalled for and antagonistic. I do not lash out like that and I believe I hit the keyboard hastily without premeditation. I am very sorry and retract that comment.
Thanks for your retraction Stamina and my apologies if I came accross as judgmental, however, in the strictest sense of the word I am/was judging. I am not judging the fact that you (or anyone else) is cheating nor am I judging the reasons that you (or anyone else) have made the choice to cheat. I am/was judging your description of your relationship and as a lifestyle purist (for lack of a better word), I am saying that the foundation of our lifestyle beliefs is that your significant other is on board with your activities and that some (not you) "cheaters" do their level-headed best to disrespect our view/choice/beliefs. Quite simply from our point of view we cannot conceive of hurting another person (through having a sexual encounter) without cause and, we believe, that would be exactly what we are doing to the ignorant significant other. Beliefs and principles aside, we have also seen the very real outcome of a cheater being caught and his spouse's reaction to the third parties involved which included legal action and threats of bodily harm.
Quote by NawtyCat
Thanks for your retraction Stamina and my apologies if I came accross as judgmental, however, in the strictest sense of the word I am/was judging. I am not judging the fact that you (or anyone else) is cheating nor am I judging the reasons that you (or anyone else) have made the choice to cheat. I am/was judging your description of your relationship and as a lifestyle purist (for lack of a better word), I am saying that the foundation of our lifestyle beliefs is that your significant other is on board with your activities and that some (not you) "cheaters" do their level-headed best to disrespect our view/choice/beliefs.
Quite simply from our point of view we cannot conceive of hurting another person (through having a sexual encounter) without cause and, we believe, that would be exactly what we are doing to the ignorant significant other.
Beliefs and principles aside, we have also seen the very real outcome of a cheater being caught and his spouse's reaction to the third parties involved which included legal action and threats of bodily harm.

My only defense:
I am actually a very decent guy. I was raised by my staunch God fearing Afrikaans parents. So my cheating in this case is possibly due to the fact that I have not found what I am looking for. My current girlfriend is just that, a girlfriend. I know for a fact that I am not going to marry her. She is a hot young 21yr old with the face of angel and a body to die for! Nothing more. If and when I settle, it will be with my perfect match (whom I am still searching for), I will love, honour and cherish her - and will NOT cheat. I do have that control, was as loyal as a puppy dog to the mother of my kids for 9 years, so I can do it again. For now, I play while I search. Who knows, maybe my future wife is right here on SH? The problem is that I am fussy, I want the perfect woman. I know she exists.
This girlfriend is great, but something is missing, even though she is just fine as a partner, I am not happy. Maybe because of the age gap, we do not connect... Maybe because her father is 8 years older than me? Maybe because I still love the mother of my kids even though she ripped my heart out? Maybe because Natalie Portman is out of my league... I don't know. But I am a very decent man that has come to be curious about casual sex. Believe it or not, I have dated more girls in my young days than I can count, but never had sex with them. I refused to be a hormone driven horn dog in my prime years! I showed the girls that I am different. So now I think that I seek casual sex because I actually regret not doing what all my friends did...
Quote by Stamina
My only defense:
Who knows, maybe my future wife is right here on SH? The problem is that I am fussy, I want the perfect woman. I know she exists.
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I am here Stamina but Nawty beat you to me.....sorry lol just kidding...sort of....maybe....