Harmfull or not MASTURBATION

Masturbation.

I don’t know about you, ladies, but I’m a big fan of Masturbation

Trust me, you are your own best lover…and to be the best lover, you have to love yourself. Love your body. Enjoy your body. And not be afraid to play with yourself.

BUT CAN IT BE HARMFULL????

I say, YES, most certainly the method used to masturbate with, could be and IS harmfull to yourself.
 
AS to why I say  yes to my question. I will leave  my own opinion to answer after I have read what you guys have to say. (Yes, and of course the men aswell, must give their input)  That is to say if there is ladies out here who is brave enough to say anything.

Hell who am I kidding, who ANYONE,who is out here, who is brave enough to answer.

Mmm - interesting topic Puss.I'll go first on this one. Been lurking in the background reading other your other quite interesting topics lol. Definately YES to that. I like(d ?) to masturbate with things stuffed up my uretra. Dont ask - there are too many lol. Problem is it gave me nasty infections many times which is quite difficult to explain to your local GP as a member of the male population. But oh man the pleasure I had - eish

Pib, are you talking about physical harm or emotional harm?

Hmmm. ...

I've often spent the most part of a Sunday lying on my tummy with my rabbit vibrator giving me exquisite sensations. Switching it onto a low vibration sensation between orgasms while I catch my breath before starting again. 

But.... after this kind of prolonged stimulation, not only is my hand stiff (from holding the toy in That perfect position) but my clit becomes quite sensitive, so only gentle clit stimulating sex can happen afterwards....

I've also bruised my clit and labia from those sessions.....

But it was so worth it!

Oh boy FANTASTC   Thanks guys for commenting  and giving me your experiences and opinions.

@ lizaan  It can be either or whatever you want to share with us lizaan, either is very welcome.

@KC_ Sunday is only a day away...(suggestive eyebrowse jumping up and down from this side of the pc !!!!!!!) I can just imagine your hubby watching!

@  Charlieme first of THANK you for jumping in first!!!  I have to opologize for jumping to *assume* I looked at your Nick and thought you were a lady, as urethal play is Really unsual for ladies to use as a sexual stimulation. In fact this kind of play is very popular with men and does happen more frequently than what you might know.(but more later on that)

I am sorry to hear that you gave yourself infections, which of course is REALLY dangerous and painfull. As someone who regularly did/does *Sounding* is what urethral play is called (for those who might not know this) ,If you are interested in this topic, I could write something about this in a new  Fora, You may even go back to enjoy this kind of stimualtion if done right.

I am however, going to wait for Monday to give my own feed back on the above question.  Just maybe someone else also wants to share with us.

and of course I myself would like to know what lizaan would like to share.

Monday Morning......

Masturbation is healthy, never mind what the *older than myself * generation would teach their kids. Todays parents are hopefully more open minded and less secretive about anything sexual.

Most women do not orgasm vaginally. That’s right: Wemost of us, orgasm by clitoral stimulation. Every woman is different though. In addition to small differences in anatomy, there are big differences in the ways we need to be touched. Physical, depending on How you/we masturbate, we might harm ourself giving ourself infections, bruises everyone mentioned above.

But the MOST harmfull way is to masturbate is with TOYS. Not that toys will harm you as such per se, not in the least, it most certainly gives you pleasure and hightens your orgasms. 

So why am I saying toys are the most harmfull thing during masturbation?

It totally has to do with DESENSITISATION. One does become lazy and go for immediate gratification. Where, if you do use toys, every time you masturbate ,eventually you’ll lose your sensitivity and lose that sense of TOUCH. I myself got to a point where I used vibrators  and dildo`s so regularly, that I just couldn't get an orgasm without them, with my own hands OR by my girlfriends efforts.

So I retired them (the Toys,not my Girlfriend) and started experimenting by myself. It took awhile for me to be able to orgasm again via masturbation without any toys involved, but I eventually figured it out. The smart way to use toys is to integrate them sparingly, fool around with them and combine them with fingers,when I eventually reintroduced toys (in moderation these days), my orgasms is that much more intense.

lizaan opened a can of fish I was not really thinking about BUT>>>>>>There are also  psychological effects

Masturbation should be a harmless behavior, though once it crosses the line into a compulsive activity, it does become harmfull to a person. 

Just as a person can become addicted to porn or sex, one could become addicted to masturbation aswell. 

Some people do become addicted to the point where they find themselves unable to control the urge to masturbate at times and places really not appropiate.

Sometimes someone might start prefering masturbation instead of enjoying a normal sexual relationship with another person.
So sure, there is also the social isolation aspect plus the psycholigal  disadvantages instead of just the physical harm of chafting and other harm one could do to oneself.

?? @ lizaan.  Hi Ma`am, when are you going to give your input and help me with my inquisitive mind?, as to what you where thinking of?

This topic is a doubled edged sword. Meaning there is both a YES and a NO answer. PiB covered the female side of things with the desensitization of the clit due to over stimulation. I just want to add on that, most woman don't orgasm vaginally because stimulating the clit is easy, fast and great fun. But the trick is to learn yourself to cum vaginally. This, on the other hand is a long and frustrating exercise. But the effort is absolutely worthwhile. Regular yoni massages will reignite the blood flow and sensitivity to the G spot ( yes it does exist). Just keep stimulating it (without a vibrator) and you'll have glorious orgasms in a short while...stay away from that "easy-out" button called the clit for a while and you will be greatly rewarded.

For men it is basically the same thing...going at it at speed, trying to finish up before you are caught dick in hand, teaches you to finish quickly. This will have a disastrous effect in bed. First, you will battle getting a solid erection, and when it does happen, dessert will  be served before you even enjoyed the starters.

Instead, try giving yourself a lingam massage. Slow, sensual, and stimulating different part of your whole body. Bring yourself close to ejaculation, but don't....let the feeling linger...and enjoy the moment...do this a few this consecutively without ejaculation. After a while you will be able to control your orgasm and give your lady multiple orgasms... NOTE: this is much easier said than done.... 

hey PIB, sorry, not on all the time these days. I don't have any thoughts really. just some small input to get the forum going again.

I have a gay friend who actually injured himself of too much masturbating in his younger years. so ouch for him. the docter said he must lay off some petting for a week or 2.

on the mental side.. mmmm maybe getting addicted to it. and maybe it might lead to porn addiction. or even becoming a sex addict.

on the lighter side. when hubby doesn't feel like having sex,(after a long day at work) but wants to climax, he will go into the study and help himself, hes got a flesh light, a sleeve and just the good old mrs palm and her 5 daughters. me as well, when it was a drainy day at the office, I would usualy ask him if its ok if I help myself, with either my hand or my new half egg shaped vibrator. we are not always horny and in the mood for sex, as we don't believe in quickies. when we do it, we do it. no half ass sex for us.

hope this adds to this post a bit.

OK.. here's my 2cent's worth: toy is absolutely correct.. Thumbs up dude, you're 1 in a million who's kinda figured it out! Let's go into this in depth: Firstly I cannot stand the M-word, it sounds like something a cow does when its not Masticating, and "self-love" evokes images of some narcissist Liberace hugging and complimenting himself in front of a mirror!  Soo... my term for this is self-pleasure.. SP for short.... 'rubbing one out' is for the girls.... us guys 'polish the rocket', 'strangle the bishop' or 'spank the monkey'.... (note that there are many more terms for male SP than there are for the female version)... where'as "wanking" is something the brain-dead occupants of that 'toilet of an island in the north sea' do when they're not standing in line for the dole. Now.. toy says this is a double-edged sword.... I say it's multi-edged... so many angles to this I almost don't know where to start... but here goes anyway:

The positive (mainly male, can't help it... I'm one) perspective: SP is where it's at in this 21st century.... soon you'll be able to buy devices which generate orgasms better than any of those resulting from interaction with the opposite sex.... this is a major positive in itself... in that guys will no longer need to go out pussy-hunting (essentially a futile exercise) ... and therefore interact with women on an intellectual level (hahaaa).....

Now before you'all get me wrong here, I'm all for hooking up at the local pub and fucking your brains out out till daybreak but that shit only happens in holly-wood, not in this here real life world....

to be continued......

Thanks Wolfman

Now I am sitting here smilling like a  Cheshire Cat...

@lizaan.  Thanks for sharing, yeah one does need some stress relieve now and again, and then a little egg vibrator is a handly little thing.

@toy  yeah we might have to really get a Forum started on HOW to *spank the monkey* LMAO @ wolfie here...... and for us ladies on how to really enjoy some *me time- slapping the cookie*  ermm  wolfie what do you think of this one?????

@ wolfman  Well I know I have read somewhere that you REALLY can get these life like DOLLS male and female dolls, (not those blow up ones) that is fully functional......apparently they *do suction* well, being it the mouth or the pussy area you will be using.  just saying......no need to even buy the lady a beer.....

Slapping the cookie!?.. sounds like the solo version of 'rough sex' hahaa. My dear I am not talking about dolls here, who needs the rest of the body besides the important orifices/protruberances... besides, before you know it the female version will have headaches and periods! I am talking about sophisticated machines like the Sybian, currently freaking expensive and (mainly) for the girls. Being a technical tinkerer I have built myself a device that sucks dick like a champion at the push of a button, variable speed, depth and stroke, continuous or pulsed vibration and electrostim included! Best of all it has endless endurance and never complains about lock-jaw or a load of jizz in it's mouth! (one downside is having to wash it when done)

Getting back to pros and cons of SP, whereas clit desensitization may be a risk for some women, "mental desensitization" is a major risk for us guys! Having less versatile physical equipment than the girls requires us to engage our imaginations a lot more in order to heighten arousal. This is the reason why porn has become more and more extreme. One particular fantasy works only for a couple of sessions before it becomes stale and we need to seek something more 'stimulating'. Techno-SP solves this dilemma in that the physical pleasure is great enough to eliminate the need for any accompanying fantasy. This bodes well for the future, as hopefully the current trend towards violent sex, extreme bondage and snuff videos etc dies out.

Elaborating on @toy's points, the human sexual dilemma starts in childhood: The male of the species actively trains himself to reach orgasm as quickly as possible so he's not caught in the act, mentally negating the journey and totally focused on the destination. The female at the same time actively trains herself to focus entirely on her clit as the source of arousal and orgasm, in the process developing a unique technique that absolutely guarantees the superiority of her own SP over anything anyone else (let alone an inexperienced male) could ever create for her! Could things go more wrong than that?!? We are breeding a race of premature ejaculators with anorgasmic partners!

So, where lies the solution? Education, I guess. So now we have to illustrate the whole concept of sexual interaction to pre-teens with booklets filled with little stick people doing the deed, showing little girls that their pussy has equal status to their clits and convincing little boys that their inadvertent hard-on is an invitation to an adventure and not something to be got over with asap. AAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!! Really cant see any of that happening soon, for obvious reasons. As for encouraging pre-teens to engage in partner sex as soon as possible, just voicing the idea makes me afraid of being arrested for tendencies, same goes for an adult providing hands-on education like some so-called "primitive" "un-cultured" tribes do.

I guess we need to accept that man's mental development lags far behind his technological progress.............

OMW,  are you going to patent your device?  I would think such a machine should be available for all lonely males. There would be less females with period pains or headaches.

Myself I have never even seen a real Sybian. Oh I know what it looks like due to pictures, but I really cannot see the allure the ladies have for it. Having a man or a few men at your disposal one really should not need that toy. Also thinking of the side effects, no man ill be able to keep up. Just as those fuck machines you see being advertised for penetration, pistoning away, Nope see no way I would go for something like that either.

As for washing...even us humans have to wash after a session of healthy sweaty sex. So no use complaining about washing your toy after use.

I am actually playing with the idea of writing a small book for my two boys about "not just the normal birds and bees" but give them the extra info I wish I had...no way am I going to sit them down and tell them that to their faces. I can just imagine: "You did THAT with mom??!!"

But still not sure if that is the right way to go... There is, after all great joy in exploring and learning by yourself...