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Ha ha LongJohn Unfortunately the single women you try to stir up, sadly don't exist (as you indeed noted yourself). They are called unicorns for a reason. Equally sadly they that do really don't use the forums. It appears that members that DO use the communication facilties/functions are a very small percentage. And they tend to either use the chatroom OR the forums. To my knowledge the are no single female profiles except PIB who contribute on the forums... so your intended audience is not in attendance at all sad The primary reason, I believe, is because of the sad situation where a combination of factors (few being brave enough to venture into meeting strange men without back up, for sex, which could easily result in a , combined with the arrogant abusive and take-what-I- want type tone and content of messages they receive from ill mannered arseholes who think that because they are here they aren't entitled to some kind of standards and boundaries, and the social stigma that WE as a society have labled women who want and desire good regular sex, as sluts - underlined by the guys here who keep treating them as such, Nice and then we want to know what's wrong with them) - this all makes women who are enabled and confident enough to venture here in the first place bluddy rare. Then those who do, have to put up with attitude, rudeness and downright abuse. . .. and to top it, they have been handicappedin communication with no body language, facial expressions or nuances (so important to a woman's communication style) to help them figure out whether they can handle this kind of interaction. We have set people up for failure really. ..
Woman do not need sites like this or any other to get "good" regular sex . . . . . once the male of the species can come to terms and deal with this fact, they will probably find themselves getting "lucky' way more often, but instead our little insecure ego's make us brand ladies as sluts etc . . . . Guy's, if there were not woman who wanted occasional random sex partners you would have to get married or buy very big tubs of Vaseline, so grow up already they are doing exactly what you are wanting them to do . . . .
Longjohn A very eloquent closing from you there, you come across totally different than in your profile, meansyou can string words together which is always a big plus wink You have mail lol
Well it seems last night (or rather this morning) got quite exciting. Good words though longjohn. However for some strange reason my profile got like 200 views last night as opposed to my normal one or two views a week, I wonder how that happened.
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Well it seems last night (or rather this morning) got quite exciting. Good words though longjohn.
However for some strange reason my profile got like 200 views last night as opposed to my normal one or two views a week, I wonder how that happened.

told you before dude, clever advertising trick you have there :thumbup:
Mike... Told you, I read here that you have a good profile and even I went to perv it!!! No wonder you got such a lot of views of your profile. There are way more readers than contributors in the Forums even from the Unicorns. Lee has it wrong, there are way more than me here, If you think of Kawaicouple who was both singles and hooked up here in SH to become a lady herself was an active participant as a single and is also now active as a part of a couple. There was way more in the past as well,but if things get a little off balance sometimes, we Forumbunnies sometimes prefer staying quiet. As to anyone reading the Forums Take note guys here in the Forums is the best way we *single* ladies read and decide whom to make contact with and who to ignore or send/blow off with a polite little note. I PERSONALLY know a few single ladies who does read here, be assured of that. Way to go guys!!!!!!
Pib I knew some ladies who been active in the forum as you said but they rather not active anymore of reasons we all knew, and the same happened in the pool a lot off active single women but also a lot that disappear also for reasons we all knew. As they said in the pool this morning perhaps a paid up site will help, but a few had there doubts because on other paid up site you also had people with no manners at all. By that I not said I did not except the apology of longjohn89, he for one try to clear the air.
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Pib I knew some ladies who been active in the forum as you said but they rather not active anymore of reasons we all knew, and the same happened in the pool a lot off active single women but also a lot that disappear also for reasons we all knew.
As they said in the pool this morning perhaps a paid up site will help, but a few had there doubts because on other paid up site you also had people with no manners at all.
By that I not said I did not except the apology of longjohn89, he for one try to clear the air.

We have been around various sites for about ten years, both the free and the paid sites. We have found the best sites to be free ones, this one specifically and another that is no longer going, the worst were also free sites. People dont change if they pay to join a site, if anything the rude and obnoxious ones get even more so as they now have a feeling of entitlement. So turning it into a paid site will not change anything, it will probably not even reduce the number of members, nor will it change the ratios (this is from experience of two well known paid sites.
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We have been around various sites for about ten years, both the free and the paid sites. We have found the best sites to be free ones, this one specifically and another that is no longer going, the worst were also free sites. People dont change if they pay to join a site, if anything the rude and obnoxious ones get even more so as they now have a feeling of entitlement. So turning it into a paid site will not change anything, it will probably not even reduce the number of members, nor will it change the ratios (this is from experience of two well known paid sites.

I guess it's true what they say, Money can't buy you manners . . . . rotflmao:rotflmao::grin::grin::rotflmao::rotflmao:
I'd just like to butt in here, when I was single and looking ,couples and men that approached me also had no manners - came across like I would be a sex prop or a masturbation aid. Anyway, that's why I just stopped looking and replying clearly some people don't know how or what real swingers are. Glad I'm part of a couple now if we don't hook up with anyone I still get to have amazing sex so I still win haha. And Longjohn ur apology seems sincere but that rant came from somewhere I still am wary.
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I'd just like to butt in here, when I was single and looking ,couples and men that approached me also had no manners - came across like I would be a sex prop or a masturbation aid. Anyway, that's why I just stopped looking and replying clearly some people don't know how or what real swingers are. Glad I'm part of a couple now if we don't hook up with anyone I still get to have amazing sex so I still win haha. And Longjohn ur apology seems sincere but that rant came from somewhere I still am wary.

Yes, would like to add apology to that. as for single women being seen as masturbation aids, also come across that.
Not one of the single women that we have played with did we meet through swinging for that matter, but usually stayed friends afterwards, even helped one with her wedding, after which playing was obviously out.
Couples play with couples and singles, live ups to your profile and be a decent guy and yoy will get referred around, if you want it that is
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Longjohn
A very eloquent closing from you there, you come across totally different than in your profile, meansyou can string words together which is always a big plus wink You have mail lol

Thank you kindly Sir and Ma'am.
I think when I wrote that post I was thinking like I was on a "datting site" which was a huge mistake and miss understanding from my end, I had the wrong understanding of things and now know how the single guys get such a "bad rap" on the site, and that is not at all what I wish to do. Yes this is an adult site but also a site were friendships are formmed. Making this more a comunity than a ? (Help me out here! I don't know to phrase this in a decent mannor so sorry for vulgar vocab) "f#ck site".
And as such I would like to cultivate friendships no matter the intention or nature of the friendship.
And towards kitty's post. It doesn't matter weather u are single or in a couple u will find couples and single that are pushy and to be blunt more full of shit than needed in the sense that there attitudes resemble those who feel a sense of intitilement or they are better or above every one else, which I feel is wrong and snobbish to the point of disgust. So it makes them look like my first post LOL!!!! :lol: YES this part is ment to offend all singles and couples like this!
Since we are all intitled to our own oppions that is mine, take it, leave it, use it, don't use it.
If I can change my outlook on things there is no reason why others can't!
And to all the "dudes and dudettes" that are and have changed there outlook on things congrats!!! (Insurt pat on back here).
To those who won't change and feel u are better than every one else.........ya I choose to hold my tongue at this point.
well longjohn, at least you have taken over where i stopped lol :lol: :lol:
Hey Longjohn69....wtf dude....you have just made the worst mistake any male could make on this earth....You apologized....NEVER EVER FOR EVER AND EVER apologize, nature will unapologetically rule you out of existence. What is now is going to happen is that these woman(unicorns) is going to see you as the vanilla nice guy,and is just going to do what they want to with you....But I have hope for you.A second chance...Come back with a new profile and just tick all the nice and straight stuff and in the description box you describe yourself as a guy who loves daisy' unicorns are all looking for sensitive can even proof to them how sensitive you are by inviting them to come along to any funeral and show them how load you can will slowly be lured by your sensitive you make the choice of the one's who you like the most.....You give them all individual compliments .Say you give them 2 to 3 compliments above the shoulders make them feel good....and BANG !!!...BANG !!!...You insult them....You flip the power tables and let them know you here to play. I also acknowledge those who took offense on my word uses.I know words can become I had no such insidious Bacardi and folding arms was just a metaphor for a bully.I dont like if I have to be given a black eye by you LeeEC,I will turn and give you the other eye than everybody knows I have been warned twice....LeeEC.....look at my fingers...not the thumb,not the index finger,not the pinky,neither the ring finger... I am also going to erase the word Slutwife from my vocabulary and replace it with Hotwife (same meaning diffrent version).But a cuckold stays a (Joan of Arch) I am giving you props for your explanatory and persuasive skills you must be a conscientious can hold court and a good research itch was woken up and I went to Google the words cuckold and swinger.I found that one of our local kings King Mswati III was cuckolded by his wife...eish !!!...I ended up in England ,in the 1440's during the War of the Roses there was another king I was taken to the Vatican and there they had a huge orgy/swinging party at the Banquet of the then in turn lead me to the conclusion that cuckoldry is a royal act and swinging is for the humble and poor. And you the hating dude....And get out of that fish might suffer a cardiac arrest and drop dead....then we all throw a party after that. ________________________________________________________ Cuckoo, cuckoo: O, word of fear, Unpleasing to a married ear! __William Shakespeare
It seems in my senseless rant I have created a topic in which everyone has found a valid reason to "rant and rave" about something lol, but Andre' 3000 as far as my apology goes it is NOT to show any form of weakness. It is purely to show that I was in the wrong in what I said and all comment made about it were right, yes every one has there right to an opinion. But what I said was wrong of me to say in the sense that this is not a "slut pick up site" but a community of people that enjoy the nawty side of life, and as such this site was created to express that and meet other couples and individuals who feel the same way. My apology was made for those I offended and rightly so they deserve it. I was at fault with my post hens I corrected my mistake. It was to say that I am not a rude piggish douche who feels he is gods gift to woman, if anything I'm from it. I am here to explore and have fun. I am in no way "vanilla". It take a man to apologize for his mistakes and wrong doings, a coward on the other hand wouldn't take the time to correct it, instead would run and start again some were else or delete and make a new one. This is in no way a stab u Andre' but a statement to say who I am and what I will do to fix a mistake, I take my lashes I don't run.
dude"s I know to say what is on your mind is one thing but to make it a personal attack is NOT RIGHT. I mean there is a reason you are single. Not everyone likes a person that is trying to pull a domenatric stunt. Joyrider Learned to watch what i say No F---- that you Single men think just like the single ladies. the single ladies are very picky in what they want which is there right. As they want to feel safe when meeting a cpl or a single guy. But you F---- idiots that join the site that think you are Gods gift or women and cpls. Have got the whole story wrong. It is 9 times out of 10 you guys that have SMALL DICKS and don't really know how to treat please a lady and then you try and compensate for it on another way, by being a really asshole. It is 9 times out of 10 you guys that give the act of having fun a bad name as you are the ones that cause shit in between the married cpl's and cause the unicorns to run like hell. If you are that hard up and really want sex, then just go to an escort agency where you pay to have sex. Then you can be that asshole as you are. As you are paying for it. Please Assholes grow up or go to an escort agency. Joyrider Oops I did it again
There are some real wankers on ill give u that joy, but I hope I'm not being thrown in the amoungst them just because I'm a single male?
Does anyone have any idea as to what on earth is actually going on in this thread? :small-print: Wow, So I will throw my 12 cents in (yes, twelve cents) . . . . . If you are the type of person who is very easily offended, then maybe you should re-consider being on a public website, because sunshine people are rude, and even if they are not rude as such, people are over sensitive and more often than not interpret others as being rude. So it is actually just a viscous circle. If you NEED to be treated a certain way without exceptions when it comes to Sex, then get married and try brainwash your spouse into doing things exactly the way you want them done (good luck with that) Just like you have your wants and desires, so do other people and guess what? they ARE going to clash from time to time, so when they do, find a way around them and stop bloody moaning. When the hell are people in South Africa going to stop being so bloody sensitive. (note: I did not say South Africans) G T F U
By the behaviour of people on this forum it is always easy for me to tell the true caliber of people's characters. Longjohn your response with apology has impressed me... but your response to Andre3000 makes me want to buy you a drink. ... Please accept my friendship. You have well and truly proved yourself a decent and respectable human being, and a man with brass balls. .. coz this forum place is a rough town to ride into. .. and coming back and even responding was brave and commendable. I look forward to more discussions with you.
First off. Thanks Lee, means a lot that I have made an impression worth noticing. Like I said before it take a man to apologize for his wrong doing's. I will stand and fight when I am right and when I am wrong I will apologize, my old man always used to say speak when u kno what u are talking about. Or a more better example and this might offend a few I don't kno lol but here it is "rather keep your mouth closed and let them think your bright, rather than open it and remove all doubt". In my opinion what what Andre' had to say about my apology was not his place to judge, coz seems to me as if he is the in that class of "single male" not becoz he is a bad person, that I don't kno. He is in that class becoz he purely comes across as typical tool to me, ur basic I'm best fuck the rest, I am gods gift to woman type of guy. I don't kno how many others feel this way? Back to u Lee. Brass balls are required indeed lol. But I have a constitutinal right to express my views and opinions not so? And yes its habbit to attack those who have something to say. My reasons for what I did was plain and simple, accept it or don't u kno what I mean? Getting attacked by a tool who assumes he knows the inner workings of every ones mind is amazing and well slightly amuzing lol. So to sum it all up. 1st post massive mistake, got attacked for it, apologized for it as its the right thing to do, get attacked again!! But as I am in the right if u could politly blow it out ur ass it would be greatly appreciated lol as for as ur opinion is concerned Andre', u should take a page out of the "vanilla mans" book, get some tackt and stop being a trukulent knob assuming u kno me! Empty barrels make the noise and dude u sounding like tyko drum right now!
Profile is looking way better LJ wink
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Profile is looking way better LJ wink

Thank you play, means a lot, concidering what is was and what it is now. Its gone from avarage crappy male to someones profile u actually could read lol
Okay so far I see one guy on this topic that NOT getting any lol Hi LJ your profile is better and I will keep an open mind when it comes to you ...stil wary
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Okay so far I see one guy on this topic that NOT getting any lol
Hi LJ your profile is better and I will keep an open mind when it comes to you ...stil wary

Considering that he has followed the advice, vs many that would say we just too fussy, not genuine, not serious, fake profile etc. Reccon a second chance
Hi there masters of swinging, im glad i read your forums. I am a newbie and i am looking for someone who can take me under her wing and guide me and nurture me on the rights and wrongs of swinging. Im swinging alone, i would like to do it right and i want to do it for a long period of time. Can anybody please guide me. tx
LJ, just for the record: your post did not offend us in the least - we love a good subject to debate on! In light of the aforementioned: thanks for giving us exactly that. :twisted: Sorry you did not get the reaction you were wishing for... Hugz Mrs Cat xoxo
Well done LongJohn You have come through the 'Baptism of Fire' Us single males (and dogs) have to endure the harshest of abuse on this site, believe me. Now chill and enjoy.
Long john is no longer with us it seems wink
Hi, playcouple he is not, He still sent me a private mail and just as I sent his answer the notification came he is GONE... Who knows, maybe he will be back.