Going to a Swinger club to enjoy a few sexual encounters is something I have NOT EVER done as yet!!
Nor will I go anymore.
But I chat to plenty of people who does attend, females, gents and couples.
When I started out there was NO swingers clubs.....only private parties and you had to KNOW someone to be invited.
There were GAY clubs...and Strip clubs and Normal clubs sure...but Swingers clubs , NOPE.
I was listening to the broadcast that Adonis mentioned in his forum yesterday, the one lady said she always attend weekends,and enjoy herself.
She also said it is only professional people and the people earning a *better* salary that goes/join the swingers lifestyle.
To that ,I lifted my eyebrows...but who am I to disagree.
NOW I know for a fact that going to such a club the entry cost a tidy sum.
Couples and single ladies does NOT pay the same EXTRA high cost a single male pays.
Then the refreshments cost(drinks) is a very steep prize as well, so all in all a single male working in a normal job has to choose to which club he wants to go and can sometimes only afford one such a visit a month or every second month.
Sometimes some clubs even advertise that single ladies entrance is FREE and her first 2 drinks as well.
To me *that* is something I think of as sexual discrimination.
Now do not get me wrong, I also know the high cost to clubs for single men is to keep the single men to minimum,and then they are also first vetted/verified before they can enter or/and they have to make bookings to attend as well.
I think by letting the ladies enter for free or let them pay a very tiny sum of R50 is just a way to USE them as *sexual bait*for the swingers them in other words.
ME,I know, I would like to go and know I also pay the same amount as a single man because it is my choice to go,not be someone else`s sexual bone........if I can be as crass.
Now I just wonder if single ladies will attend clubs, if they could not attend Free or NEARLY for free, including the 2 free free drinks......
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Orgasminator
Ons het al 'n klub besoek en glo soos Pib se die vra van toegang vir single mans is seker maar om hoeveelhede te beperk. Ek gaan nie my mening uitspreek oor enkel dames nie maar glo dit is 'n manier om mense tetrek.
Ek glo al die klubs is van waarde ,vir die informele saamkoms vir swingers.
Baie mense ontmoet mekaar daar en ontwikkel vriendskappe.
Ek KRAAK geen klub af Ek wonder net of die dames so gretig sal wees om daar heen te gaan as hulle ook soos enkel mans die VOLLE toegangs prys moet betaal.
Onthou ek praat nie juis van *couples* nie, hulle gaan in met `n gewone tarief wat nie so erg is ,veral as mens dit in 2 deel nie.
Maar enkel mans betaal DIESELFDE as couples en enkel dames slegs R50 of glad niks (met vry drankies )
Not really, the clubbing community will tell you there are a lot of single ladies...BUT some are not swingers per se....they come because it is cheap and the *booze* is free.
But then I am talking out of others mouths here(hear say).....but a few men and couples has told me that the few times they approached single ladies at a club,they will accept a drink, but then tell them they are there for the music with their friends (other single ladies) and because it is cheap to get in to the clubs.
Sexlightened
PiB, we are not sure which swingers' clubs you are referring to in your comments, however, we regularly go to the clubs here in Jhb and would like to set the record straight about how they operate:
1. There are clubs which offer, as part of their entry fee, a buffet/ 3 course meal and/or all drinks. The entry price may therefore seem steep, however, when you take the meal etc into consideration, it is quite affordable. The pricing ranges from R400 to R600 per couple; depending on which club it is. The singles pricing is a split of the couples price eg if the couples are charged R400 then a single male will be charged R300 and R100 for a single female. The difference in price between males and females is because men generally eat more than women do AND because there are so few Unicorns in the lifestyle that the clubs do want to make it attractive for everyone....The clubs which charge a pure entrance fee ie no free meal or drinks included, charge R250 per male and all females entry is free (this means that a FM couple will also pay R250). Not sure if you'd consider those prices "a tidy sum" given that a meal in any half decent restaurant would cost about the same?!
2. The drinks at these clubs are no more expensive than any local pub eg Keg.
3. I have NEVER seen any single females (or males, for that matter) at a swingers club who are not in the lifestyle ie " are just going because they can get in for free".....most non-swinging night clubs let women in for free....
Women (both single females and the female part of a couple) do get preferential rates because:
* the lifestyle is considered a matriarchal society (women rule) and
* without women, the men (and the majority of other women) would not be interested in going to the clubs!
1. There are clubs which offer, as part of their entry fee, a buffet/ 3 course meal and/or all drinks. The entry price may therefore seem steep, however, when you take the meal etc into consideration, it is quite affordable. The pricing ranges from R400 to R600 per couple; depending on which club it is. The singles pricing is a split of the couples price eg if the couples are charged R400 then a single male will be charged R300 and R100 for a single female. The difference in price between males and females is because men generally eat more than women do AND because there are so few Unicorns in the lifestyle that the clubs do want to make it attractive for everyone....The clubs which charge a pure entrance fee ie no free meal or drinks included, charge R250 per male and all females entry is free (this means that a FM couple will also pay R250). Not sure if you'd consider those prices "a tidy sum" given that a meal in any half decent restaurant would cost about the same?!
2. The drinks at these clubs are no more expensive than any local pub eg Keg.
3. I have NEVER seen any single females (or males, for that matter) at a swingers club who are not in the lifestyle ie " are just going because they can get in for free".....most non-swinging night clubs let women in for free....
Women (both single females and the female part of a couple) do get preferential rates because:
* the lifestyle is considered a matriarchal society (women rule) and
* without women, the men (and the majority of other women) would not be interested in going to the clubs!
Well, here we have it from a regular club going couple......
It is NOT to expensive for single men to attend as they eat more than women...ermmm , and ladies pay a considerate LESS entry fee cause they eat less. Now that would be at clubs offering a buffet as part of the outing.
How ever If I am reading it right....hypo-philosophical the couple`s male will also eat More than the lady thus he pays R300 for his meal and entry,and his wife R100 for her entry and meal.
Now as a person whom does go to many restaurants on a very regular basis...at least once a week if not more, and have eaten a LOT of buffet meals....the meal of a buffet is usually a set amount...say of R300 to R250 PER PERSON (drinks excluded) and not accordingly to gender or how much a person eat.
But I can be wrong to think that a *normal vanilla* restaurant and a swingers club who serves food, would/should work the same.
I know a strip club here in CPT that has a restaurant and serve great meals, as a woman I pay the same amount for entry fee and what ever my meal will cost ... as any man.
I have said I only talk about clubs via *hear say* where I got my info from various other club going single men.
I also say NOT all the ladies are in the lifestyle obviously there are....but NOT all.
The most part if you look at the advertisement of clubs and their entry fee, one will read that couples and single males pay the same, and single ladies FAR less and even free.
but Nawty also states that women do get preferential rates because:
* without women*, the men (and the majority of other women) would not be interested in going to the clubs!
I keep my view that single ladies are used as a *little carrot*.
Now I am even more shocked, to learn that ladies are also used as the *bait*at normal clubs...how ever the last time I went to a normal club & gay club, I paid my due`s. Like everyone else.
Sexlightened
The comment I made about the "differences in how much men vs women eat therefore pricing is different" was made in jest..... 
My guess is, that the reason you paid the same as any man when going to the strip club is because you (and any other men) were both there to watch the strip show??? The strip club entices it's customers by the fact that there are strippers already in the club ie a strip club sells strip shows. A swingers club sells the fact that their patrons will have an opportunity to meet, mingle and possibly play with other like-minded lifestylers or (in short) swingers clubs sell "sex/sexy" and we all know that nothing sells sex/sexy better than a woman. The swingers club achieves the aforementioned by enticing women into the club with a low/no entrance fee in the hope that the women will strip .....*VERY TONGUE-IN-CHEEK*
My guess is, that the reason you paid the same as any man when going to the strip club is because you (and any other men) were both there to watch the strip show??? The strip club entices it's customers by the fact that there are strippers already in the club ie a strip club sells strip shows. A swingers club sells the fact that their patrons will have an opportunity to meet, mingle and possibly play with other like-minded lifestylers or (in short) swingers clubs sell "sex/sexy" and we all know that nothing sells sex/sexy better than a woman. The swingers club achieves the aforementioned by enticing women into the club with a low/no entrance fee in the hope that the women will strip .....*VERY TONGUE-IN-CHEEK* Ahhh okay, I mistook the *men eating more than women*comment.
I rest my case then with different questions (but it could reflect the first original question)
DO YOU AS A WOMEN like to be the bait....the carrot.....the enticing factor.....for MEN and couples at a club. or do you also just want to enjoy yourself like any MAN OR COUPLE when you walk into a club ???
Do you as a woman primaly go to get *PICKED* by men and couples.
Or do you go to socialize and meet some interesting people with out the object that they only want to meet you for sex??
That if sexual attraction is present, you can go play knowing you were NOT used in any way. But that you stand there as an equal??
ONCE more....I am a feminist....thus I would feel degraded if in any way I was misrepresented.
My point of view of clubs :sad:
When we started in the lifestyle we went to clubs to see what it is all about and this is a our view of clubs.
We went to clubs 509, a place near Bronkhorstspruit, club near Walkerville, 2 different clubs in Pretoria and we came to the conclusion that the clubs have people who have formed clicks and outsiders (new people) are not welcome. That is the feeling we got from all the clubs. At the one club there was a cpl with a single lady. Well the impression that we got is that the single lady was trying to take all the action and attention away from the wife and it looked as if the wife was the third wheel in the fun that was taking place.
So for us we don't like the club seen. We prefer private encounters with cpl's and then no one feel's like a third wheel. And with the right cpl it is really great :twisted:
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Forum Virgin
A lot of people go to clubs for different reasons, Some go for the social side , some go for the shagging and some go for the party.
The club environment is a platform for you to use to whatever level you feel comfortable.
The differences in the clubs in JHB and i frequented most of them, is where you as the person or couple feel you fit in best.
The costs vary from club to club, as do the drinks prices, some serve a meal, some serve light snacks you could buy when you are there.
As for single woman going to clubs, is this not a "safe" environment for them to meet like minded people? If i were single there is no ways in hell I would meet someone in or at a private venue, how do u know the calibre of person you are meeting? Why would you want to make yourself vulnerable and allow yourself to be put into a situation you might feel uncomfortable with?
The club environment makes this easy, should you hit if off with the person you are meeting, well and good, if not, you simply move away and meet the rest of the people around.
There are management and moderators around to help you, guide you and make you feel comfortable. Rules are set in place for reasons, after having an introduction at the club, ( all clubs insist on this) everyone is on the same wave length, so it takes the Ignorance out of the equation.
Is this not part of what we pay an entrance fee for?
The "click" part, I don't think there are clicks at all, I think where the misconception of that comes in is a "newbie" you arrive, you know no one, yet you sit and watch a group of people having a good time, most of these people have gotten to know each other over a period of time and i am sure they would gladly invite you into there group. The more often you go, the more people you meet and the better party you have, We were all new once and it takes time to get to know people, take a chance put yourself out there, go the extra mile to smile and introduce yourself to other people, you might be surprised at the outcome.
@ card thanks for your insightful contribution.
I agree about the clicks.... I have found that going to a Swingers Meet and Greet for the very first time...I also found it daunting, and thought it very clicky...
But I always tell myself to try things for 3 times, then I can have a good idea on how things really are.
so I went 3 times and every time It was easier and I was more acceptable to the oldies who was already *friends*
but I also have to say...I went out of my way to go and greet each and every person,I have not stayed and became part of their group...I moved on.....and after the 3 rd time I was welcome in what ever group I wanted to be.
But I always tried to move around to each and every person just to say HI.
But for club scenes I do not know how that works,so I can not say anything about clicks there.
Best Is to maybe try and get a few online friends to go with or to meet there.
We went to a club for the first time this weekend. It was Pharaohs, the one in midrand where the fee includes a meal and hot drinks, and alcohol is bought at the cash bar.
Despite the "high fee" for single males, there were still quite a few there. We think that if it wasn't such a high fee, the place would be a sausage fest, with very few females, even when considering the couples who go. There were quite a few single females, who seemed to be loving life.
As cards said, everyone goes for different reasons, and I think for women, it is a safe environment to have a party, dance to music and not be harassed, as the rule there is the women have to approach, and no means no.
We were greeted by a quite a few friendly people who went out of their way to say hello, as they could see we felt like fish out of water. Despite feeling out of place, we did not feel as if we didn't "fit in with the cliques". It was mainly our comfort levels, not the attitude of the regulars there. We were "checked on" to see if we were having a good time. I appreciated that!
Anyway, my 2c
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C
We chatted to some very sexy people, danced with some sexy people and checked out the different rooms.
Two very sexy ladies showed us how to use the sex-swing, I think they enjoyed putting me in it more than K_ did ;)
We had sex in the voyeurs room twice, the first time a threesome came and had sex next to us, which was great!
The second time we had a cute guy watching us ;)
When we were done in the voyeur room, there were loads of people chilling in the pool, a few looked like they were getting very cosy. By then, we decided that we had ventured enough for our first time, and went home.
I regret being so shy with the sexy ladies who put me in the swing, hopefully next time I will have the guts to ask one of them to play 
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C
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C 
Forum Virgin
We have only been to clubs in CT. While we had a good time it was a big let down. The crowd that evening was about 80% newbies wanting to see what happens. They were all there to see so action and instead got bored and left.
We had our fun while people watch but we were the only people playing.
Surely the Management should control the amount of new people attending a party or is it just about taking your entrance fee.
Wednesday afternoons ladies are free and a small group of "single" men pay to enter the club. The club profits off these ladies.
Is this the general practice?
We still attend the odd party but only if we know there are a good few of ours friends going.
never been to a club but can quite imagine the paranoid mind of a newbie inventing cliques and such simply because of their newbie status and lack of confidence, lack of established friendships and low comfort level.
I imagine a small 'house party' would be the best way to start your party experience - especially if you don't come from an area where clubs exist, and therefore club visits could only be rare, few and far between... you'll never get comfortable if you only have a club experience once a year and are always the "newbies". The "bring a friend" strategy might work though, if you are an annual visitor... go with another couple you know (but arrive separately :haha: )
Good advice Lee,
I think you meant they must travel separately but can arrive together,and enter together.
By traveling separately it is safer and better in case one couple wants to leave and the other wants to stay.
The same can be said to single ladies and gents....go with your own transport.
You can always follow the other people if you decide to hook up for the night and go to a private venue.
Oh, and any newbies, remember to take your little *fresh up* bag with.....and go fresh up frequently!!!
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Good advice Lee,
I think you meant they must travel separately but can arrive together,and enter together.
By traveling separately it is safer and better in case one couple wants to leave and the other wants to stay.
The same can be said to single ladies and gents....go with your own transport
While you make a good point 're transport, I DID say what I meant. Someone commented earlier that they went with friends arriving together, and no-one new played with them because they came as a group
