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I think it was either the beginning  this year or late last year when I received a personal mail from someone (I cannot even remember the person writing me, as I NEVER met them,  NOT her, neither her Hubby!!!) Accusing me of  being an Adulteress.  NOT using this NICE term of course..... NOT making her hubby the cheat of course...NO NEVER that.

ANYWAY  that is in the past...

What  I really want to do is stick my wrinkled neck out here, As I am going to be controversial and  give pointers to*Those Cheaters* to really cheat without being caught.....

And I really HOPE to get a LOT of FLACK for posting something like this......HELL,  Anything to blow life in this my last few attempts to get the Forum back on track. Maybe get a few ladies and men riled up  Hmmmm???? People who does  Read without commenting might just jump in and tell me off.

Cheating  could be a male or female (yeah females also cheat!!! BUT females sort of are always made out to be holier than holy!!! And the poor males are usually the BAD GUYS!!!!  Sooo I am a female,  but I do feel sorry for the men.  Sue me!!!!

Sooo you are busy or Contemplating  to Cheat ...Things to remember when you decide to cheat.

YOU could be found out, and your life will change from good to really BAD

Your spouse might never trust you ever again (even if the spouse has forgiven you)

The cheating will always be mentioned in an argument thus you might/will  never *forget* that  part of your life and be able to move on.

And Hell of Hell.......  THE lady becomes Pregnant!!!!!!  Or you can contract a STD`s

BOY,  I could go on and on and ON about this.

Okay check list..WHEN you decide to CHEAT...DO it with Panache !!!!!!

1) Have a second phone for those *skelmpie* calls, to do it from your current phone is looking for trouble EVEN if you have a pass word!! Or at least a second sim card.

2) Do not use the house computer used by everybody!

3) Never carry condoms on your person, if you do not use them with your lovey.

4) Keep your household soap, a toothbrush with your house toothpaste where it is safe and NOT in your car or have a GOOD hiding place. REASON...Shower after being a cheater SMELL of something different is a dead giveaway. (soap/toothpaste/deodorant/perfume/alcohol and smoke*) so keep some clothes to change before you go cheating. Send it to a drycleaner DO NOT leave for your lovey to do!!!

5) WATCH for any underclothes stains or messes that is not usually there!!  On Outer clothes lipstick and mascara is the usual culprits.

6) DO NOT become obsessed with grooming!!!  JUST be *you* no need to be extra sexy/shaved/waxed whatever.

7) Do not dress differently (more sexy or new styles) New sexier undies and heels!

8) Do not be anything else in the bedroom, decline sex or want MORE sex, and for goodness sake do not try the NEW things you have now learned!

9) Do not go out for *unusual late night work/work related functions* if you never had them before.

10) Keep a check on your motor vehicle kilometre....Dead give away to a suspicious snooping spouses.

11) Keep a check on your expenses!!!!!!!!  Using more Money is also a dead give away!!!!! and God forbid you use your credit card!!!!! So hopefully YOU have your own spending money.

12) FORBID any phone calls and contact at home...never drop your voice or take calls away suddenly from your spouse if you never did it before.

13) Do NOT allow any photo`s with new adulterer,  it may just be visible on a social media open to all.

14) No accepting of any gift!

15) Check for any skin marks left behind after a session of cheating!!

NOW FOR THE FUN STUFF>>>YOUR SECRET KINK!!!!

Now it could be Cross dressing Clothes or some Toys to stimulate yourself with LIKE the *CBT Sounds* I talked about in a previous it could be anything!! Where to keep them...

Hiding these items is difficult in a house with kids and a lovey!!!

Usual place is the garage for men, women like to hide their stash where they know their hubby never searches.

MY own personal BEST hiding place is in the CEILING!!! Difficult to reach and retrieve.

The  car has a few good hiding places, underneath the spare tire, (Hope you never get a flat) or the *tool*cubby holes in the boot no one ever opens!

Hell this Fora is way too LONG...so my last words are..

I am sure there is way way more stuff to cover....give them to me!!!

This is of course to cheat well without getting caught, but it also has it`s reverse effect. NOW the ladies and gents know what to look for whenever they do suspect they have a  CHEATER for a spouse. Happy Hunting in that aspect...

HAPPY cheating everyone!!!!

I would say, first and foremost, make sure it is worthwhile. If you are caught out, there is usually no turning back. And a lot of people, like the kids, get hurt in this. 

My 2 cents... 

@ toy    Thanks for the 2 cents, I do prefer 5 cent of course!!!!

(Tongue in the cheek here)  OF course cheating is worthwhile, all that adrenaline flowing while you do something NOT allowed!!!!  

This afternoon someone told me while cheating, you also have to be carefull NOT to get any trafic fines or do something that will result in a trafic ticket via the mail...and it is not where you said you were at that time........Never thought of that one....Thus Drive carefully.

Makes me wonder on what I still need to know, to be able to cheat safely.

To a much more serious topic. Kids are actually very resilient. Sometimes they are much bettor of with just one parent, and here I am NOT saying it has to be the Mother!  



On the lighter side...there is just so much more sexual satisfaction when cheating....  No race to the finish line so that everyone can return to "life".

oh im so glad we don't have to cheat, hubby will just be thrilled to hear I was with another man, and if I took a pic or a vid for him, he will be over the moon. only rule is, I cant tell him until he arrived home.

and don’t forget the security cameras that have become part of our every day lives. 

Cheating would be a breeze if it were not for the little voice in my head. 

lf you only get it one or twice a year and your partner bans porn and swinging is for the devil you must get some fun somewhere divorce is not always the answer if have been married for ages and have been divorced before. I have been doing it more than 10 years without any suspicion, it becomes a art after a while.

Once you married for a few years sex goes on the back burner for most women either that or they get supper horny, most of us do not have such luck. My friends can vouch for that

one more thing if my partner was really interested she would surely know I'm doing it, besides that it is not good for a male in his later years not to find some release its bad for the prostrate like cancer and things.

On the lighter side, I can honestly not imagine my partners response should I tell her that I was having an affair to prevent cancer!

Suppose you can always ask her to jerk or blow you or even have sex with you to prevent prostrate cancer, some might think why should l do it because then l will land up with all his cash.

@ PiB

My comment on this Fora will ruffle a few male feathers, I am sure. Some males will be so upset with me, they will most likely never talk to me ever again. So BE it. Some might agree some will not. It however is your choice. We all know by now Men and Women cheat. Reasons why females cheat is mostly different  from males .

But today I am JUST going to concentrate on why men cheat .

Men cheat because they can. Men cheat because other women Will sleep with them.

Sometimes a man’s reasons for cheating evolves as his life circumstances changes. Regardless of his true reasons for cheating, he didn’t have to do it. There are always other options.

 When confronted, most men will  minimize, rationalize, and justify their behaviour with statements like...

The lady was sexy and available and easy.

 Boredom and Inattention...... Their spouse stopped paying attention to them, or wasn't paying them enough attention or is not meeting their needs sexually. Men will thus give a more  emotional reason, by saying they decided to cheat because the other person was really there for them.

Insecurity....He may feel as if he is too old (or too young), not handsome enough, not rich enough, not smart enough, etc. Mid-life crisis is a huge factor.  Thus to bolster a flagging ego, males will seeks validation from other women other than his spouse.

Selfishness....It’s possible that a males primary consideration is for himself and himself alone.

Unrealistic Expectation....He may feel that his spouse should meet his every whim and desire, sexualy and otherwise, 24/7, regardless of how she feels/house hold chores and child care and working to help support the family.  Specially with PORN addiction and ready available social media like instant sex sites and such.

Anger or Revenge.....He may cheat to get revenge. He is angry with his spouse, and wants to hurt her. In such cases, the cheating is meant to be seen and known.

The man married too young....mid-life happens and they’ve only had one partner or maybe two, but a man wants to feel like he’s got it. He’s gotten better looking and more successful, so he goes after other women.

Wife changed....she has gotten too fat/thin, she is neglecting her appearance, she is not keeping *up* with his Higher and Increased life standard. She is not interesting enough.

There is of course many many more reasons.

The series of internal lies and deceits people tell themselves to make their cheating seem okay is unmentionable and will always be relevant to themselves. (at least in their own mind)

And NOPE it is not okay to think you are NOT cheating when you spend hours on the computer doing what we are busy doing. I’m only sexting and flirting. Where’s the harm in that? I don’t meet up with any of these women in person. It’s just a game. Yeah,  tell it to yourself my friend.

The bottom line is...If you’re not happy in your relationship, get therapy.


Well all can say we all have our own opinion, what a world it would be if we all have to agree men are from Mars woman from Venus, hence the The plant is called the Venus Fly trap for a reason, read between the lines if you wish, have a great day or not, whatever blows your hair back, most people here are mostly talk no action anyway.

@ dicktracy   First I want to Thank you for participating in the Fora 

I like reading everyone`s views and opinions. And you are right , everyone is allowed to have his or her own opinion. That is what makes the world such an interesting place. And of course human behaviour is always sorta unpredictable and that alone  is something one can only look forward to. We sure can learn from each and everyone.

I of course had to smile when I read the cancer comment....nice to learn that little titbit. And I really smiled when I read the part of *why one  should revufe  to give any man a BJ, I am so  looking forward to  me  getting every male I know, when they pass on to heavely BJ`s ..... cash!!!!!.LMAO damn, as if that will ever happen.

The banter between you and bob696 really is what the Forum is all about....nice casual banter with out anyone getting heated under their collars. 


@ lizaan   You are lucky you have such a marriage. And that communicatin is open and well between the both of you.

@bob696  I never even though about the security cameras, and Yeah, that little voice in your head can really screw up your enjoyment .......smilling.

@PiB

You did say women also cheat, really???  You are a woman here alone ARE YOU CHEATING Ma-am???? 

So while you are explaining yourself....do give Us what you think is the reasons why women need to cheat?

Okay first off. NOPE, I am not cheating, my Lover knows I am here, she also knows I played actively when I WAS STILL ACTIVE, as for the Kinky side of me, she sometimes takes me to play/scenes or sessions  and waits for me to finish...She is allowed to come watch, participate, or even have some lady over for sex should she wish to have that(she is totally gay where I am Bisexual) She mostly meets everyone I have ever played with. She also KNOWS I will never leave her for someone else, as we are together for over 30 odd years. We have a good open communication relationship where she is allowed to tell me when she dislikes something I do, and may ask me to stop. Just as I allow her certain lee ways with her life. After all is said and done we do have separate lives and hobbies, sex is one of mine!

What is different for women when they decide to cheat.

There are factors that is the same for both sexes, like revenge sex/ low self esteem/ boredom/ attention seeking  and more in fact  but females is different cause...

Females want a deeper and more emotional connection not just because the male was there, or easy, or handsome.

She feels unloved by a husband who is abusive and destructive.

Females can tell themselves they can behave just as they want to cause they are *bad* or if hubby is a dependable solid straight laced man they might try cheating with a *bad boy* just to evaluate the difference.

Females are more attuned to their sexuality these days and know what they want in bed and if hubby is not up to par, well...

Females sometimes have an affair as a cry for help. They don’t want their marraige to end, they just want their partner to realise how bad things have gotten.

Empty nest syndrome,  After children the female may cheat as a way to discovering herself as a woman again, rather than just being a mother.

Some females  may never have actual sex with other men but they will enjoy emotional and flirting and email and whatsup sexual encounters.

Mostly women turns to cheating NOT to divorce but to stay in her current relationship.

All in all cheating will always remain a issue for society, whether it is male or females doing the cheating.

Me Myself and I.

My final word on cheating......

When you decide to cheat, or you find that your loved one does cheat, WHAT EVER the reason. You should have a discussion as to why.(Most couples do NOT really talk or communicate)

Try and work out what is wrong and try to fix it. If you find that  this does not work for in your relationship maybe you should Both go to a therapist for some marriage counselling. A therapist cannot FIX what is broken, I know, but they can help guide you in solutions and communication with your spouse. 

Try and go back to the basic, if I can say that,  after all  you and your spouse did find something that attracted to you to like/love that person, that is why you decided to get married. Sometimes just starting over looking to see what it was that attracted you to the person sleeping in your bed,  might help you decide to stop cheating or to not cheat at all. Just maybe you can also rekindle old fires.

NOW,  we who want to point a finger at someone who cheats, whatever that reason might be,

We must also remember These people aren’t BAD people, they might be good people in bad circumstances.  We should look at where these people actually are in life. Can you…me... or anyone… make this choice to  judge anyone as easily as we do?


Love my wife more every time she has a skelmpie

I came across this thread by pure chance - its old I know, but to add to the OP.

I'm a cheater, player or whatever you wanna call it - I won't apologize for it - I'm in a dead bedroom marriage and when it comes to my needs, the wife is not on the same page, damn she not not even in the same book.

Never cheat with a woman who has never been married - they will eventually start with the pressure to leave your wife and marry them.

leave the young horny women alone - they are not emotionally mature enough to handle a cheating relationship you will get burnt later on.

Never meet up at your house (when wifey is away) or their house, always a hotel that you book and pay for - change the hotel for every meetup.

Never go home afterwards - its an all night away from home on business thing.

Never say you going out with a mate - If she asks them later they will drop you.

Here's a really bad one that most will call me out on - I have compromising pictures of most of the women i've been with - If they ever threaten to expose me I can do the same - its insurance I never needed but its there.

make sure the women you play with are into the same things you are - Nothing worse than getting into another relationship where you not getting what you really want.

Make sure there is not even the remotest possibility that you will bump into her in public.

Make sure they have very little knowledge of you outside the play relationship - with me they have my 2nd cell number and i go under a different name (crazy but true) but that's about it. Twice I have had to make a sudden exit from the relationship (they were getting to emotionally attached) and all i did was change my 2nd pay as you go number, never to hear or see them again.

lastly get the ground rules down so she understands from the start why you are there - its sex and that's it, if she wants anything else then move on.

I have only ever played with married women who are in the same boat as me - they not getting what they need at home but won't leave their partners and are not prepared to risk one night stands - its a fuck buddy relationship, where you both feel secure and can satisfy whatever fantasy or fetish they not getting from their partners. We meet, play and go home, the only contact we have is messaging plans for the next meetup. We both have 2nd phones left at the office

men need to be very careful out their - I have 2 mates that got caught (Both from their cell phones)- they lost virtually

everything - A scorned wife is your biggest nightmare, they will fuck up your life forever.