I own a business. I rely on customers for my livelihood. I must get jobs in constantly to cover overheads and make a profit. So I sell. Engineering is my game, so not all of Joe Public will be a client of mine... But I have to try and get business from as many people as I possibly can, including those that are not really in need of my services. Target marketing is then the best approach (but not the only approach). I specialise in stainless steel work. You may not be looking for the services of a Mechanical Engineer, but that should not stop me from sending you my pitch. So apart from target marketing, I still make my business known to as many entities as I possibly can and I try and sell my services to as many as I can.. Makes good business sense - not?
Ok, business lesson over... Single males (attached, almost single, etc) are "the enemy" on this site. Most complain that they contact them even their profile says "no single males". Now as above, it makes sense that if you view a profile of a couple that is looking only for another couple, then it is not "target marketing" to contact them. It is however "marketing" to contact them. After all, the husband in a couple is a male, just as male as a single male... As in business, one must "market" oneself. This site works on a "hit and miss" principle. I believe most males on here are simply "marketing". Some of the profiles suit their needs, others don't. So they contact people looking for males (target marketing) and they contact people that interest them but not looking for single males ( broad based marketing)... You may not be in the market for furniture, but you will get a Joshua Door pamphlet in your post box, see a lounge suit you like and go buy it, even you were not planning to buy one.
So maybe all on here that get irritated with contacts that do not fit their requirements should be a bit understanding and patient. I for on get hundreds of messages from bi and gay guys, I do not get upset because I understand that they are just "marketing"... Food for thought.
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Maybe this approach has value for you.
What tends to happen with me, and with quite a lot of the couples I chat to, is that these profiles get ignored.
Then, possibly get remembered as people NOT to play with when/if the time comes that they are now looking for single males...
Our sex life is not a business, we do not need constant excitement to survive, unlike a business which needs constant business to survive.
Many of us couples have very fulfilling sex lives on our own, and the play time with other people is an extra, not a necessity.
When profiles have read our profile, or believe that they can provide something we ARE looking for, they have a much higher chance of success.. compared to profiles that think they can convince us to sample their goods.
Just my 2c
Orgasminator
Kom ek antwoord hierdie in my taal wat ek gemaklik is.
Ek wat een van die persone is wat al baie kritiek oor singles en getroude mense wat nie singles soek nie uit gespreek het.
Ek weet en glo daar is baie plek vir bemarking en deur goeie bemarking gaan jy mense se insigte verander. Voorbeeld van Stamina jy sien die pamhlet van Joshua Door en jy doen dalk besigheid daar, maar dit betekin nie Russels oorkant die pad kan nou begin beledigend raak oor jy hom nie gekies het nie.
Dit is presies dieselfde met enkel persone probeer en probeer maar bly net altyd beskaaf en ek verseker julle , julle gaan gouer getroude mense se koppe swaai.
Al die mense op hierdie site was nie van die begin af swingers nie en op daardie stadium sou hulle die idee afkeur, hoekom het hulle idees verander, nuuskierigheid, belangstelling of verandering.
Vra enige vrou, daar was 'n stadium, dat sy gese het jy is mal as jy haar vra Squirt sy, doen sy dit anaal en ek kan aangaan. Hoekom het so baie verander in hul denke en se nou sy kan haar nie voorstel dat sy gekant was teen verandering.
Dit is presies dieselfde met getroude mense onsekerheid wat kan verander in nuuskierigheid om iets anders te probeer, Dan is die gemanierde enkel lopende person daar om aan die behoefte te voldoen.
Kom ek gebruik 'n voorbeeld ek het my lewe lank gese 'n rooi motor nooit oor my dooie liggaam en raai wat die bemarking was reg en met tyd het my kop verander en ek het die rooi motor gekoop weer verkoop maar was nooit spyt oor my verandering in denke nie.
Kom ons prober saam om die beledigings vir ons self te hou as ons nie kry wat ons soek nie en prober net harder die volgende keer.
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Maybe this approach has value for you.
What tends to happen with me, and with quite a lot of the couples I chat to, is that these profiles get ignored.
Then, possibly get remembered as people NOT to play with when/if the time comes that they are now looking for single males...
Our sex life is not a business, we do not need constant excitement to survive, unlike a business which needs constant business to survive.
Many of us couples have very fulfilling sex lives on our own, and the play time with other people is an extra, not a necessity.
When profiles have read our profile, or believe that they can provide something we ARE looking for, they have a much higher chance of success.. compared to profiles that think they can convince us to sample their goods.
Just my 2c
Exactly... The ones that suit your requirements have a better chance. The ones that don't suit your requirements were simply "trying their luck". So the hit and mis scenario. But he looses nothing for trying. Same as business, whether you want a new cellphone or not, they still call you and try to sell you a phone contract... You said that many couples have a fulfilling sex life without meeting partners... Well so do many "single males".. So as in business, I have enough customers, but no harm in trying to get more. My point is that guys (in general) will always try and get as much "business" as they can.
You keep trying to justify single guys harassing couples who do NOT want to be harassed by them, and more than likely you. If you have a lady...bring her along to play, you may get somewhere. From your perspective you could probably consider her a marketing tool. From our perspective you have, quite simply, nothing to offer, no fulcrum if you want to look at it that way, "from an engineering point of view" as you more than likely see it.
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You keep trying to justify single guys harassing couples who do NOT want to be harassed by them, and more than likely you. If you have a lady...bring her along to play, you may get somewhere. From your perspective you could probably consider her a marketing tool. From our perspective you have, quite simply, nothing to offer, no fulcrum if you want to look at it that way, "from an engineering point of view" as you more than likely see it.
You keep misunderstanding my posts... You are quite new to the forums and obviously do not know me at all. I guarantee you that I am not one of those bugging couples on this site. I am actually a decent guy with good values and high standards. I bet I have made more friends here than you have! I am not here for a free shag! Trust me, I get more than my share and I am not desperate. I unfortunately get the short end of the stick in discussions because many "straight males" here harass couples and so all of us automatically get cast in that light. So I do not try and justify what some or most singles do... I simply wish that some couples can be more tolerant and understand that men are men! They try their luck. As for me having nothing to offer, how do you know? You have never met me... You may also not have anything to offer a single guy?? The door swings both ways - and assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!
As for my girl being involved here, she will never swing. I am on here alone for that very reason. And if by some miracle I did get her to swing, then we will never have success cos she will be too fussy. She really is HOT! FHM cover girl material. Perfect body, zero cellulite, zero stretch marks, perfect tan, natural breasts so perfect that they actually fake, an ass that any girl would kill for, and a face that makes Natalie Portman look like a dog! So I would gladly share her if she was willing, but then the lady of the lucky couple MUST at minimum be super sexy! She is unfortunately a bit of a bitch and I am with her purely for her looks (call me superficial) and for that reason, this "relationship" will never become a serious one because I do not intend on marrying her.. And before you lecture me, she is on the same page... So no, I am not using her anymore than she is using me. It works for the moment and I have had a wife and kids... Now I just have kids. Been there, done that... Commitment is not for me.
Again... I do not condone or condemn what most single guys do... I simply understand. Try to see it from their perspective, they are trying to get laid, this site is obviously one of the many platforms for them to seek what they desire.
Sexlightened
Well...that escalated quickly. 
Quote by Stamina
Same as business, whether you want a new cellphone or not, they still call you and try to sell you a phone contract...
But also same as with those trying to sell you that phone, some when you say no thank you not interested accept it politely and hang up. There are those who keep on saying what a great deal it is and but why don't you want it. It is those ones who anoy the living day lights out of the couples!
All I'll ad is a big thank you to those few who are gentlemen and actually graciously accept the "Thank you for the interest but no thank you" reply when they get it.
Take this as a bit of tongue-in-cheek folks, it's not meant to offend anyone 
Stamina, your business model is flawed. Let me explain:
Firstly, mass-marketing, unsolicited e-mails, junk mail and those irritating phonecalls from companies are the bain of many folks' existence. I know I detest them! At best, I ignore them, at worst, the recipient of my wrath turns out having a very bad day indeed.
Secondly, without a target demographic, your business will suffer since you cannot determine the needs and/or wants of your target audience since the group is way too diverse to successfully analyse. Narrowing down your target market will increase your success rate and thereby raise your bottom-line.
Before you set out though, you have to set down a clear marketing strategy so that you avoid targeting people who simply have no interest in the product you're marketing. This is what print and electronic media are used for: to get your message to the broader market, thereby enticing those who have never heard of your business and who may find your services useful.
If you spend a lot of time and money targeting the wrong market, you'll find your profits headed in the wrong direction fast!
Now, if we use the same analogy above in SH, we can conclude that mass-marketing can be successful at times but is, more often than not, a fruitless exercise. If you define your target market, analyse their needs and wants and pay careful attention to what they're saying, you can increase your chances of success simply by understanding what THEY want. Finally, your marketing forum is your ad that you place on your profile as well as being an active member in the forums, etc.
A bit of useless info there... Use it or not 
Stamina, your business model is flawed. Let me explain:
Firstly, mass-marketing, unsolicited e-mails, junk mail and those irritating phonecalls from companies are the bain of many folks' existence. I know I detest them! At best, I ignore them, at worst, the recipient of my wrath turns out having a very bad day indeed.
Secondly, without a target demographic, your business will suffer since you cannot determine the needs and/or wants of your target audience since the group is way too diverse to successfully analyse. Narrowing down your target market will increase your success rate and thereby raise your bottom-line.
Before you set out though, you have to set down a clear marketing strategy so that you avoid targeting people who simply have no interest in the product you're marketing. This is what print and electronic media are used for: to get your message to the broader market, thereby enticing those who have never heard of your business and who may find your services useful.
If you spend a lot of time and money targeting the wrong market, you'll find your profits headed in the wrong direction fast!
Now, if we use the same analogy above in SH, we can conclude that mass-marketing can be successful at times but is, more often than not, a fruitless exercise. If you define your target market, analyse their needs and wants and pay careful attention to what they're saying, you can increase your chances of success simply by understanding what THEY want. Finally, your marketing forum is your ad that you place on your profile as well as being an active member in the forums, etc.
A bit of useless info there... Use it or not 
Sex God
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You are 100% correct. What you said above is actually exactly what I explained. Target marketing is the better approach, but not the only approach. Broad scale marketing will bring in less business than target marketing, but may still bring some business none the less.
So is that what we re calling it these days? "business" ?????
I think it's Bid-ness!
Hey boys - let's do some bid-ness...
sorry boys - in a hijackin' kinda mood :twisted:
Actually - good business tactics require a bit of indepth marketing research...
So why, my little marketing expert, aren't you actually taking note of the feedback from your target market?
:twisted:
Hey boys - let's do some bid-ness...
sorry boys - in a hijackin' kinda mood :twisted:
Actually - good business tactics require a bit of indepth marketing research...
So why, my little marketing expert, aren't you actually taking note of the feedback from your target market?
:twisted:
Sex God
Quote by LeeEC
I think it's Bid-ness!
Hey boys - let's do some bid-ness...
sorry boys - in a hijackin' kinda mood :twisted:
Actually - good business tactics require a bit of indepth marketing research...
So why, my little marketing expert, aren't you actually taking note of the feedback from your target market?
:twisted:
Been a while since a topic got hi-jacked.
Wonder how many complaints we will get this time
and anyway, 5 points for pointing out the male of the species' in-ability to follow clues, hints or even instructions :lol:
