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Perhaps i must asked LeeC this. How can a 18-20 year members be a genuine swinger
Thats a question I have also wondered about. . .
That is discriminating against the "annually challenged".. lol!
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That is discriminating against the "annually challenged".. lol!

Classic, I'm still laughing . . . .
I have thought the same What will be left for them when they reach 40 On the other hand I have noticed they are not really swingers but getting experiance
People mature at different ages, some 18-20 year olds are extremely mature, whilst some 40 to 50 years old can be extremely immature, at the end of the day if people don't want to interact with people of a certain age, they don't have to. Age would not dictate if someone is a genuine swinger, young or old. Still I guess everyone would have their own opinion on this, quite rightly so, I'm just expressing mine.
Agree 100%, maturity has nothing to do with age, its about attitude and respect.
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Perhaps i must asked LeeC this.
How can a 18-20 year members be a genuine swinger

You have to start somewhere! Imagine their experience at age 40!
As a father of 2 adult married kids , it scares me when I read of the 20 - 40 year olds in the lifestyle. No ways they can have the maturity to handle it. I have seen quite a few disasterous ends to marriages in my time. Ok send the flack!
Quote by Gerrie2012
Perhaps i must asked LeeC this.
How can a 18-20 year members be a genuine swinger

You have to start somewhere! Imagine their experience at age 40!
lol
Fully agree Thumper. Looking forward to the flack ???????
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As a father of 2 adult married kids , it scares me when I read of the 20 - 40 year olds in the lifestyle. No ways they can have the maturity to handle it. I have seen quite a few disasterous ends to marriages in my time.
Ok send the flack!

What you have said here Sir Thumper, is exactly the kind of thing that I fully believe to be the spot on accurate truth. I thought I grew up "quickly", but you know what, this is a different level of maturity. So Sir Thumper, no flack from me, only agreement.
Sad thing Is ,I want to agree with thumper and also with AdminSteve. Both are correct in what they say. Being seduced into this kinda play at a VERY early age(also to try and impress a gent and to *keep him*) brought me personal heart ache, and lots of mental anguish about who I am and what I am. Why I say I agree with Adminsteve ,I met lot gents/couples my age whom turned out very immature. Then I also met lots of the younger generation male female and couples, and boy they are going full out and enjoying somehow handling all the unstable issues this lifestyle has, with panache. Why I say I agree with thumper, I have seen many many couples break up...young, old and middle aged,some so newly married they are still trying to cement their trust and hopes and lives in their committed marriage. How are they to survive all the turbulence they are going to experience, when they are not secure and safe in their bond? But If we look at how long a real marriage lasts NOWADAYS it is not very long....10 to 15 years tops... Now do not get me wrong,I am talking GENERAL public as wel as here in swingers town. I have seen GREAT marriages right here,and lasting ones ,for years and years....and still going strong,them I call the REAL Swingers of swinger town. But it is not easy and someone who is young and NOT married who plays here is not a swinger. Just as I am not one.(I am a single player after all) You guys would be surprised how many people I do talk to, and the things we do talk about, and one of the topics is when the *would you like to see your wife with someone else* HOW MANY reacts strongly against that!!!They want to play sure but do NOT want to share. So why would they join a swinger site.. like all the previous Forums we already had and will have most likely.....free fast sex..................... OR SO THEY THINK.
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Sad thing Is ,I want to agree with thumper and also with AdminSteve.
Both are correct in what they say.
Being seduced into this kinda play at a VERY early age(also to try and impress a gent and to *keep him*) brought me personal heart ache, and lots of mental anguish about who I am and what I am.
Why I say I agree with Adminsteve ,I met lot gents/couples my age whom turned out very immature.
Then I also met lots of the younger generation male female and couples, and boy they are going full out and enjoying somehow handling all the unstable issues this lifestyle has, with panache.
Why I say I agree with thumper,
I have seen many many couples break up...young, old and middle aged,some so newly married they are still trying to cement their trust and hopes and lives in their committed marriage.
How are they to survive all the turbulence they are going to experience, when they are not secure and safe in their bond?
But If we look at how long a real marriage lasts NOWADAYS it is not very long....10 to 15 years tops...
Now do not get me wrong,I am talking GENERAL public as wel as here in swingers town.
I have seen GREAT marriages right here,and lasting ones ,for years and years....and still going strong,them I call the REAL Swingers of swinger town.
But it is not easy and someone who is young and NOT married who plays here is not a swinger. Just as I am not one.(I am a single player after all)
You guys would be surprised how many people I do talk to, and the things we do talk about, and one of the topics is when the *would you like to see your wife with someone else* HOW MANY reacts strongly against that!!!They want to play sure but do NOT want to share.
So why would they join a swinger site.. like all the previous Forums we already had and will have most likely.....free fast sex..................... OR SO THEY THINK.

I fully agree Queen PIB1
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So why would they join a swinger site.. like all the previous Forums we already had and will have most likely.....free fast sex..................... OR SO THEY THINK.

Just had to give most of the responders a big thumbs up ... especially PIB who, as usual, said it perfectly lol
Also just HAD TO quote PIB's closing sentence as it unfortunately describes the primary reason way too many people join this and similar sites .... but that is off-topic so I'll leave it there.
So then, down to the business at hand:
IMHO ... Anyone of any age can call themselves swingers, as the most basic form of swinging is based on an open-minded approach to sexuality and the sharing of the enjoyment thereof. In other words, if John and Jane are 18, are in any form or stage of a relationship, and by whatever means or cause decide that they enjoy sharing sexual experiences with others openly and without deceit, they are absolutely entitled to call themselves swingers.
The concept of Recreational Sex is a hobby which is open and available to everyone regardless of their age, race, etc. ... or indeed completely regardless of their level ofemotional maturity!
Where the importance ofemotional maturity does however come in is when you start to talk about the individual's emotional response to the reality of "swinging", and of course, how long they might remain ... "swingers".
Although the physical mechanics are almost identical, there is a world of difference between theLOVE-MAKING that any devoted couple enjoys behind closed doors which is saturated with emotion and deep feelings for each other and the SEX that we enjoy as swingers.
The undisputed reality is that we as individuals grow and change as we age. As teens we rebel against everything simply because we are trying to find our own feet and are desperately trying to define who we are ... as individuals. What the majority of 20 somthings do not understand, and will vehemently deny, is that this process of personal growth and change does not stop at 18, 20, or even 30 years of age. Emotional maturity requires a strong sense of "self" and a multitude of personal life experiences. We never do stop growing or defining ourselves HOWEVER in my humble opinion, the largest portion of that growth and therefore the period of our adult lives where we CHANGE the MOST ... is in our 20's to our early 30's. This is the period of highest emotional turmoil and what is ok today or who we think we are today is almost certainly not going to be ok or indeed who we are some time from now.
Thus, any "young couple" in a loving and committed relationship who are hoping and wanting their relationship toLAST ... already have an enormous challenge ahead of them dealing with everything life has to throw at them ... even without complicating matters by adding in a hobby which is absolutelyGUARANTEED to play havoc with their developing emotions and emotional maturity.
It is that differentiation between the emotions employed, felt and experienced while making love to your one and only and the "Care Connection" experienced with our sexy play partners in the lifestyle, that the majority of the younger participants find difficult to understand ...
In summary, my answer is YES, an 18 year old couple CAN call themselves swingers ........ however .... I cringe at the thought of how much turmoil they are almost certainly going to have to endure!!!
Love and light to you all
NC that was a VERY good commentary.. I'm fully in agreement with your point of view.
In summary, my answer is YES, an 18 year old couple CAN call themselves swingers ........ however .... I cringe at the thought of how much turmoil they are almost certainly going to have to endure!!! Absolutely spot - on
As with anything in life, either you are ready or you are not. But starting very young might not be a bad thing. I do however believe that girls would handle it much better than guys. Girls mature at a younger age and their heads level out sooner. Guys just want to spin there Polo Vivo's in the club parking lot... Look at me, I am a Playstation addict at 35! I still chat up girls at night clubs! I love my Mommy to bits! I absolutely love cartoons! 20 year old guys (in general) are possessive and jealous. Takes alot for a guy (especially one of a young age) to get into this lifestyle I think. I personally think that if a couple wants to try this at that age, then they should first prepare for a possible break up. Don't jump into the pool without testing the water first - may be colder than you expected!
@Stamina! Spot on!
18 to 20something's are (in my opinion) not emotionally mature enough to deal with the potential effects of swinging. A male is going to get on with it thinking (mostly) hey, I'm getting my rocks off, but in all likelihood is going to have a serious change of mood when his pretty little girlfriend has another mans d-ck in her. A female is unlikely to enjoy any part of it, because of the way girls are wired (yes, I know there are exceptions) BUT, if they do enjoy it, they are likely to do exactly what any male would . . . . .find it wherever they can . . . . (whether we like to admit it or not, when it comes to s3x, the female holds almost all the cards) Another thing, when a female is s3xualy liberated, it shows, and then the slightly older male takes over, she starts experiencing what a 30/40 year old experienced male has to offer (s3xually, financially, excitement levels etc). . . . . . These are all things that the younger generation has to go through before they can mature (especially in today's protected world) I am reasonably sure that the majority of us who are 35 and older would have loved to have been able to grow up with the way things are today (knowing what we know) @Thumper said "I cringe at the thought of how much turmoil they are almost certainly going to have to endure!!!"" this is so very true, only thing is, at that age they jump ship, they don't endure for very long, and then the male of species starts saying some rather unpleasant things about his (now) ex-girlfriend (giving her a somewhat different reputation) which brings me back to emotional maturity. . . . . the 40 year old (+) generation "grew Up" by early twenties, today's generation are still "children" in their late twenties . . . . again, while I appreciate there are exceptions, I would encourage the younger generation to grow up first.