THEY do not exist :confused:
AND WHAT THEY OFFER do not exist :doh:
Possibly posted by some bored guy who later got scared of his own joke..ha ha ha
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Sexlightened
Hi Butts
Well you never know what is happening on your doorstep if you not venture out of the room :jagsatwork: ha ha
Welcome and I hope you will also bring some life into the thread :rascal: some of the guys are even planning to have some fun after hours but if you want detail pls PM me as it a bit out of the focus of the group as I can hook you up if you like
Yeaaash I sounding like a pimp more and more... :silly: but then again I like to enjoy life and the more people I find with likeminded life style more fun there is to be :grin:
And this all just started out as experiment if dogging really exist..:doh:
Anyway to my friends and soon to be friend wish you all the best and many happy endings :spit: 
To Sexyslut - I will start campaining you to be our next SA President :rascal: - I must just figure a way out to start the elections earlier 
Well you never know what is happening on your doorstep if you not venture out of the room :jagsatwork: ha ha
Welcome and I hope you will also bring some life into the thread :rascal: some of the guys are even planning to have some fun after hours but if you want detail pls PM me as it a bit out of the focus of the group as I can hook you up if you like
Yeaaash I sounding like a pimp more and more... :silly: but then again I like to enjoy life and the more people I find with likeminded life style more fun there is to be :grin:
And this all just started out as experiment if dogging really exist..:doh:
Anyway to my friends and soon to be friend wish you all the best and many happy endings :spit:
To Sexyslut - I will start campaining you to be our next SA President :rascal: - I must just figure a way out to start the elections earlier Sexlightened
:2fingers:
Looks like the ball is rolling now we just need some playas 
( Especially of the female kind :wary: )
Or we should make SexySlut the president of South Africa - hear hear :thumbup: - If it were not for her the whole thing would be a :censored:
Well all over the country people is eager to go for the Dogging thing...but sadly it seems the heart is there but the action seems still to lack :upset:
Maybe I jsut a bit crazy 
but surely there must be more people out there who would love to meet up have a chat and enjoy the moment - as I said before I was really pleasantly surprized with the people that showed up at our first "meeting" and they all really nice folks 
Yes safety and all that this is a major issue - but go thre check the place out and if you feel happy then let us all know - we will be there :cheers:
I think I must arrange a free get together sometime at some place maybe more people with pitch up? :lol:
Soon going to Nelspruit area maybe will spot a few places ther to help the people out and then off to Capetown maybe meet some interesting people ther ( I so hope...)
Will keep you all up to date :small-print:
( Especially of the female kind :wary: )
Or we should make SexySlut the president of South Africa - hear hear :thumbup: - If it were not for her the whole thing would be a :censored:
Well all over the country people is eager to go for the Dogging thing...but sadly it seems the heart is there but the action seems still to lack :upset:
Maybe I jsut a bit crazy but surely there must be more people out there who would love to meet up have a chat and enjoy the moment - as I said before I was really pleasantly surprized with the people that showed up at our first "meeting" and they all really nice folks
Yes safety and all that this is a major issue - but go thre check the place out and if you feel happy then let us all know - we will be there :cheers:
I think I must arrange a free get together sometime at some place maybe more people with pitch up? :lol:
Soon going to Nelspruit area maybe will spot a few places ther to help the people out and then off to Capetown maybe meet some interesting people ther ( I so hope...)
Will keep you all up to date :small-print: Sexlightened
:sad: Well Friday was my last day at the lake - as I have to get busy at another place not near Germiston :doh:
So to all the Feather club people have a nice one let me know if you getting together I will make a plan
My usual Indian Couple was ther sitting on the grass - not sure if the lady alwasy with the same guy - seen her car now with two others also hanging out there. To you girl I take my hat off 
- you a real playa
A Guy was taking his dog for a walk - maybe it was Samurai - So Samurai if you were there nice dog - next time stay for a chat:grin:
On the other end a guy approched me - but I was really just in the mood to watch the lake so I started walking in opposite direction - sorry later I thought I was now being rude 
But then again I wasnt sure if the corner is a gay hook-up area ( yes the guys in the cars sitting...) and I must say I was not feeling very adventurios 
Well looking forward if someone going to plan something please let us know :bounce:
So I bit you all farewell for a week - till then keep having fun 
My usual Indian Couple was ther sitting on the grass - not sure if the lady alwasy with the same guy - seen her car now with two others also hanging out there. To you girl I take my hat off - you a real playa
A Guy was taking his dog for a walk - maybe it was Samurai - So Samurai if you were there nice dog - next time stay for a chat:grin:
On the other end a guy approched me - but I was really just in the mood to watch the lake so I started walking in opposite direction - sorry later I thought I was now being rude
But then again I wasnt sure if the corner is a gay hook-up area ( yes the guys in the cars sitting...) and I must say I was not feeling very adventurios
Well looking forward if someone going to plan something please let us know :bounce:
So I bit you all farewell for a week - till then keep having fun Sexlightened
I not too sure of the venue will try to come back to you but there is some camping site or venue near Nelspruit that there is some possibility for dogging - I will try to find out for you
Basicly what I learned is that you must try to set up something yourself and invite people to join - dont expect something will happen...:shock:
Go out look for places near you - I sure ther is many Nelspruit people on this forum that would be too pleased to have some exitement ;-)
So if you want it you must make it happen.. :jagsatwork:
Many happy endings for you :grin:
Basicly what I learned is that you must try to set up something yourself and invite people to join - dont expect something will happen...:shock:
Go out look for places near you - I sure ther is many Nelspruit people on this forum that would be too pleased to have some exitement ;-)
So if you want it you must make it happen.. :jagsatwork:
Many happy endings for you :grin: Sexlightened
Really had a funny incident yesterday _ Thursday
:grin:
Was doing my walk thin again at the lake - must say saw many people yesterday and well not sure why they are there so I just decided I will enjoy the lake view
They are actually cleaning up the place - very nice setup now...not sure how long before it is messed up again..:censored:
So minding my own bussiness ( for a change) I saw a Black guy :borg:
He had a whole feather thing going on a stick - I just had to laugh
Sir if you part of this forum my appologies :upset: if I thought it was funny but actually you took the feather thing to the next level :thumbup:
Girls if you reading this ...really there is MORE than enough guys willing to do WHAT EVER you please I sure of it
Guys - well it seems like we have to take things now in our own hands :wanker: ( What an expression LOL)
Anyone - please come up with ideas not be shy Really met some nice people and enjoyed their company
To the guys in the cars... sorry you still freak me out :scared: - especially that I starting to know the regular cars hanging out there...or maybe it is me that is weird
Anyway the weekend is on our way so lets have fun and enjoy life :cheers:
:rascal:
Sir if you part of this forum my appologies :upset: if I thought it was funny but actually you took the feather thing to the next level :thumbup:
Girls if you reading this ...really there is MORE than enough guys willing to do WHAT EVER you please I sure of it
Guys - well it seems like we have to take things now in our own hands :wanker: ( What an expression LOL)
Anyone - please come up with ideas not be shy Really met some nice people and enjoyed their company
To the guys in the cars... sorry you still freak me out :scared: - especially that I starting to know the regular cars hanging out there...or maybe it is me that is weird
Anyway the weekend is on our way so lets have fun and enjoy life :cheers: :rascal: Sexlightened
Well I did my rounds at the lake - getting really a habit now
Met one of our fellow Feather club - Redbruce said Hi had a nice talk and again time got hold of me so we had to go
Unfortunatelly the holiday was not much of happenings...just sat at home and looked videos..would be nice to have some people around :-P
Anyway love to hear from you guys and have fun!!
Met one of our fellow Feather club - Redbruce said Hi had a nice talk and again time got hold of me so we had to go
Unfortunatelly the holiday was not much of happenings...just sat at home and looked videos..would be nice to have some people around :-P
Anyway love to hear from you guys and have fun!! Sexlightened
Maybe I getting addicted or maybe I just enjoy the relaxing set-up of the lake before I go home but I made a turn at the lake again
And again now I am thinking I seeing things ( except the guys in the car they really freaking me out...) ..
The guys again getting more at 5pm
Saw the previous couple again of Friday - and correcting my statement they look like Indian and not Black, and more specific it looks like the lady have her fun arranged.
Seen the same car ( hers) but a differant male (differant car) :eeek: so ja looks like she knows how to arrange things ha ha ha
Going out after strolling around I saw a couple entering the lake ...maybe people is getting the groove
Unfortunatelly I have to leave at as I must go pick up my house mates so time is limited
Anyway have fun and be safe
Sexlightened
Gypsyswingers - that is a cool nick :lickface:
Anyway the guys in the cars is still freaking me out but well I made peace with them.. . :bs:
Maybe one day I will start a fire and a braai and then walk over to all of them to give them something to eat ...feeling sorry that they sit there all day not enjoying the nature :grin:
Well guys and girls there is life in dogging you just must take the first step and give a shout at the forum --- there is someone who will pitch.....
Or just hang out you will find some action going on in some car or place...... who knows ? 
So well it seems like I have to turn into Buy-sexual ( When ever I want sex I have to buy it ha ha ha )
Or just hang out you will find some action going on in some car or place...... who knows ?
So well it seems like I have to turn into Buy-sexual ( When ever I want sex I have to buy it ha ha ha ) Sexlightened
Hi All
Well I glad to replort there is something happening at the Germiston lake :eeek:
My last "offical" day was friday - I counted 14 cars arriving at 4:00 - 4:15 WOW
I think they wanted to see what was going on - well guys take a stroll you will get to know more - the sitting in car thing won't work (Really)
I took a stroll and AGIAN spotted a black couple going on in a car - seems like the black peopel know how to have fun ;-)
Well they were DEFINATELY not into dogging as when they realized that I was actually sitting next to the place they decided to get their groove on they freak 
- Well at least I got a view :lol2:
Seems that the holiday thing is not working out too much - but anyway ANYONE that have a venue or a suggestion let us know - there are more than willing people ( decent nice people ) that will like to join or have fun !!
So a bit of a short report but I will get back to you all later today - it is monday again so yes all must get messed up
Sexyslut a big kiss for you :therethere:
- Well at least I got a view :lol2:
Seems that the holiday thing is not working out too much - but anyway ANYONE that have a venue or a suggestion let us know - there are more than willing people ( decent nice people ) that will like to join or have fun !!
So a bit of a short report but I will get back to you all later today - it is monday again so yes all must get messed up
Sexyslut a big kiss for you :therethere: Sexlightened
Well after (actually all day) of raining I was feeling a bit frisky to go down to the Lake and look at the ducks in the rain :sticky:
But got stuck in the traffic - a truck over turned so it messed up my whole plan..so I gave the Lake a skip for a day :smoke:
Anyway still getting great responce from our Feather Club so please guys any ideas for a next meeting let me or the forum know and sure we will be there - since next week there is a holiday maybe we could hook up ??
:cheers:
(Possibly not at the lake I think there will be a very noisy bunch on holidays at the lake... :censored:
I was thinking what to try out next...any ideas or dares from the world outside the internet? :confused:
Happy :hump: or :sleeping: to the guys in the cars and to all hope to hear from you soon
Chow for now - I will complete the week - 4pm at the lake Sexlightened
:eeek: After all the morning fun and happenings I still continued ny afternoon visit to the ducks and the lakes.....and the weird people in the cars just sitting, waiting ....scary... :-?
Anyway thinking back and branding it as a succesfull morning I notice our couple still at the lake - well I left it there and continued my stroll around the lake
Returning to my old car..and really I mean old ... result of being out of the country - no credit history, no home adress no accounts..so I stuck with what ever I can get but that is part of life isn't it:doh:
Anyway back to our story: I saw the couple park next to the old faithfull...to my surprize they said Hallo and aslo said they enjoyed the show.....:eeek:
Well you could knock me down with a feather..ha ha ah :high-smile:
So our little feather club had its own "pervs" ( that is how they put it) and we didnt even know....
So big welcum to our couple too and thanks for sharing
Again dogging is alive and well...it just take ALLOT of planning scheduling and arrangement but at the end it does happen....at least at the lake in germiston and if you have a feather all will know why you there ;-)
Anyway back to our story: I saw the couple park next to the old faithfull...to my surprize they said Hallo and aslo said they enjoyed the show.....:eeek:
Well you could knock me down with a feather..ha ha ah :high-smile:
So our little feather club had its own "pervs" ( that is how they put it) and we didnt even know....
So big welcum to our couple too and thanks for sharing
Again dogging is alive and well...it just take ALLOT of planning scheduling and arrangement but at the end it does happen....at least at the lake in germiston and if you have a feather all will know why you there ;-) Sexlightened
Oh yes people did show up and they did have fun...up to them to comment
ANd all the people that did show up actually true to their word ..and of cause SexySlut did show ( She is a really fun lady to be with thanks sexyslut)
All the people behaved and we all had good time ( sorry I had to leave before the actual fun started but I was sill impressed and satisfied that there is hope..)
Anyway I will still complete my week - everyday from 5pm - 5:30 and friday from 4pm so those who interested to come say hi please do
And the weird peopel sitting in their cars...please I beg you..come out and just say Hi sit down have a chat about the freaking ducks and weird people sitting in their cars...live life a bit, shower naked and fart in the bath just try it it might be fun!!
ANd all the people that did show up actually true to their word ..and of cause SexySlut did show ( She is a really fun lady to be with thanks sexyslut)
All the people behaved and we all had good time ( sorry I had to leave before the actual fun started but I was sill impressed and satisfied that there is hope..)
Anyway I will still complete my week - everyday from 5pm - 5:30 and friday from 4pm so those who interested to come say hi please do
And the weird peopel sitting in their cars...please I beg you..come out and just say Hi sit down have a chat about the freaking ducks and weird people sitting in their cars...live life a bit, shower naked and fart in the bath just try it it might be fun!! 
Just pulling your leg bru - I must say I got a few people who said thank you but no thanks but must agree mostly people not bother to reply back Sexlightened
:bounce: WOW
I was amazed - and also now formally withdraw all my statements that Dogging does not exist
An arrangement was made to meet at the Germiston Lake for all fellow doggers . I must say I was really not thinking ANYONE will show - but to my amazement 3 brave guys and one sexy lady came out and made themself known
:smoke: :smile2: 
uch: :rose:
So to be identified they all had a feather in their hands...again I was a bit worried as before the place was full of feathers and then when I showed up I could not find any... :confused2: so luckly for the Ducks I found some otherwise I had to go and assult a living Duck :kick:
I was there first but not seen any feather carrying humans...just the ducks...and a white couple was also sitting near the ducks...but no feathers so I jsut walked past say Hallo and went my way...not wanting to disturb them as we all have our little pleasures in life dont we? 
First showed up was our lovely lady ( Man she have some balls to show up ) and withing 20- 30minutes we were a group of 5 sitting and talking - actually was nice to meet all of you really :rascal:
Unfortunatelly we were surrounded with people cutting grass - yeah I been there now almost 4 days in a row - NOBODY cared to cut the grass, but today the whole of Department Of Park: Cutting Grass Section had to be there all over the show
But it did not stop us from meeting anyway
And that is how the forum thread name came up: The Feather Club
So to the guys who was hiding near the buildings shying away - you were and still is welcome to say hallo, the freaks sitting in their cars ( You are starting to scare me...really :sad: )
To the cops - thanks for keeping us safe and all the drugdealers away - LOVE YOU
To the guys cutting the grass - WHy oh Why today ???
To the couple in the car - Hey why not join us we loved to have your company too at least you not had to hide in the car??
To the couple sitting at the lake - well if you were there to play man oh man we missed you somewhere we did not get the feather things over to you guys???
To the lady that showed up - man you makde allot of guys happy by just being there ( I know I am :lol: )
To the guys - well you heared our plans so keep your eye on the forum
To those who have my number - please be discrete you know not all of the world has an openmind
To the ones reading the thread..yes that is you behind the keyboard - join us we dont bite ( Only if you like it but we will knibble on your ear ha ha ah)
So guys let me hear from you I will post regulary just to keep you all up to date or to get all my things in my mind out or what ever reason it might be I will be here keeping up the feather
Let me tickle your fantasy ha ha ha - a man can but only hope :jagsatwork:
uch: :rose:
So to be identified they all had a feather in their hands...again I was a bit worried as before the place was full of feathers and then when I showed up I could not find any... :confused2: so luckly for the Ducks I found some otherwise I had to go and assult a living Duck :kick:
I was there first but not seen any feather carrying humans...just the ducks...and a white couple was also sitting near the ducks...but no feathers so I jsut walked past say Hallo and went my way...not wanting to disturb them as we all have our little pleasures in life dont we?
First showed up was our lovely lady ( Man she have some balls to show up ) and withing 20- 30minutes we were a group of 5 sitting and talking - actually was nice to meet all of you really :rascal:
Unfortunatelly we were surrounded with people cutting grass - yeah I been there now almost 4 days in a row - NOBODY cared to cut the grass, but today the whole of Department Of Park: Cutting Grass Section had to be there all over the show
But it did not stop us from meeting anyway
And that is how the forum thread name came up: The Feather Club
So to the guys who was hiding near the buildings shying away - you were and still is welcome to say hallo, the freaks sitting in their cars ( You are starting to scare me...really :sad: )
To the cops - thanks for keeping us safe and all the drugdealers away - LOVE YOU
To the guys cutting the grass - WHy oh Why today ???
To the couple in the car - Hey why not join us we loved to have your company too at least you not had to hide in the car??
To the couple sitting at the lake - well if you were there to play man oh man we missed you somewhere we did not get the feather things over to you guys???
To the lady that showed up - man you makde allot of guys happy by just being there ( I know I am :lol: )
To the guys - well you heared our plans so keep your eye on the forum
To those who have my number - please be discrete you know not all of the world has an openmind
To the ones reading the thread..yes that is you behind the keyboard - join us we dont bite ( Only if you like it but we will knibble on your ear ha ha ah)
So guys let me hear from you I will post regulary just to keep you all up to date or to get all my things in my mind out or what ever reason it might be I will be here keeping up the feather
Let me tickle your fantasy ha ha ha - a man can but only hope :jagsatwork: Sexlightened
And so Dogging do exist...yes I must admit I am wrong there is people out there and they are really into having fun
SO I started a new Tread ( Feathers in The Park) you can read all about the happenings ( and create your own) there
To all that showed up ( especially the sexy lady 
hwoar: ) a warm thank you and major welcome to a exiting beginning
:cheers:
See the New thread - Feathers in The Park Sexlightened
Believe me when she say she will be the ONLY lady there - you will not miss her
Go to the far end of the road - you will see allot of guys sitting in the car ( really it getting to me WHAT :fuckinghell: are they doing there???)
Then sure sure you will see only one lady.... sad but yes that is true...
Sexlightened
Well let see how things roll I try to sneak away from work
Seeing that you the only lady :eeek: there you surely will have ALLOT of guys there too .....just not sure if they can get out of their cars :sleeping: as there always seems guys sitting in cars
Really can ANYONE tell me what is the sitting in car thing?
Anyway I still be there this afternoon - maybe checking out where a safe place would be to meet :taz:
So again guys - PLEASE PLEASE respect the lady or ladies ( are we so hopefull?) that might show up :boo:
And NO means NO not go and get all soggy and cry in front of all the people we all grown-up and ONLY there to have FUN :thrilled:
If it all goes well I will consider making a regular thing of it and also making my home available for peopel who serious in living life a bit on the sexy side :welcome:
Sexyslut you will see someone cum for sure ... where and how they do up to you :wanker: :rascal: :spit: 
Before I forgot - the small things with allot of feathers is actually ducks ...leave them in peace I am an animal lover ha ha ah :jagsatwork: Sexlightened
:wanker: sadly I always end up with my dick in my hand with this experiences
HAd in Thailand MAJOR MAJOR fun EVERYDAY and wish to go back there soon - 
:moon: :rascal:
Went twice to swingers parties in SA - once had a real blast even stayed over at a couples home afterwards the second time ...well maybe I was just not in the mood as it was a bit disappointing had a few couples and one lady but it felt so empty no fun in it..... could rememberthat I once had to fake an orgasm...hell A guy faking ???
So ja my pre findings is that Dogging is only a rumor and things which males will fall for ( anyway we males fall for anything where there is a mention of sex) but sadly no males even want to step up to the plate and say "Hey, I am here horny and well lets chat and see maybe we can get some beers or a girl or whatever to have fun with...." They just sit there in their cars... so sad :violin:
But then again I will give it a go as far as I possibly can there after I must seriously thing of getting take- aways as the load is getting full here and it boring to :sticky: :wanker: all the time
:moon: :rascal:
Went twice to swingers parties in SA - once had a real blast even stayed over at a couples home afterwards the second time ...well maybe I was just not in the mood as it was a bit disappointing had a few couples and one lady but it felt so empty no fun in it..... could rememberthat I once had to fake an orgasm...hell A guy faking ???
So ja my pre findings is that Dogging is only a rumor and things which males will fall for ( anyway we males fall for anything where there is a mention of sex) but sadly no males even want to step up to the plate and say "Hey, I am here horny and well lets chat and see maybe we can get some beers or a girl or whatever to have fun with...." They just sit there in their cars... so sad :violin:
But then again I will give it a go as far as I possibly can there after I must seriously thing of getting take- aways as the load is getting full here and it boring to :sticky: :wanker: all the time Sexlightened
:eeek: no I not think they thought I was watching ( sorry looks like I was a perv there :censored: ) but well if they doing it in public place I might as well watch
But it seems like the dogging scene is really a very very very very ( did I mention very?) rare happening
I will keep the flame up for this week - there after I too have to say it is a thing that not exist :undecided: ...and it is so sad
Well there is a few places I saw guys picking up "take-aways" aka hookers in Fourways and Rossetenville and shagging in the car but the pay - to -play is not my cup of tea 
Then Krugersdorp is full of these take-aways :giggle:
Places in JHB that there is actually action in dogging scene... no at this stage I know of none :confused2:
But I trying to prove myself wrong this week - so let see what happens I will not give up without a fight :sparring: so I will be there at the Lake from Mo-Thu and Friday from 4pm
Then on Monday I will make a conclusion :small-print:
So all the wanna be doggers - show up take a feather and come tickle someones fantasy,
To the guys in the cars just sitting ....hey it is really getting weird so please tell someone why you there maybe we missing out on something special? :scared:
PS:
Be safe - so girls if you want to join make sure you are safe I not want someone get hurt ok?
I will keep the flame up for this week - there after I too have to say it is a thing that not exist :undecided: ...and it is so sad
Well there is a few places I saw guys picking up "take-aways" aka hookers in Fourways and Rossetenville and shagging in the car but the pay - to -play is not my cup of tea
Then Krugersdorp is full of these take-aways :giggle:
Places in JHB that there is actually action in dogging scene... no at this stage I know of none :confused2:
But I trying to prove myself wrong this week - so let see what happens I will not give up without a fight :sparring: so I will be there at the Lake from Mo-Thu and Friday from 4pm
Then on Monday I will make a conclusion :small-print:
So all the wanna be doggers - show up take a feather and come tickle someones fantasy,
To the guys in the cars just sitting ....hey it is really getting weird so please tell someone why you there maybe we missing out on something special? :scared:
PS:
Be safe - so girls if you want to join make sure you are safe I not want someone get hurt ok? Sexlightened
:crazy: Still confused about the guys just sitting in their cars... man have any of you an idea what these guys is doing... I mean they jsut sit there windows rolled up and sit...weird really weird :sleeping:
Anyway was there at 5pm and sat till 5:45pm - no body approched me or even say hallo :undecided:
But at least there was a black couple VERY into each other so I decided what the heck I go and sit near a bench and look what will happen
And well.....she gave him a hand job with her hands in his pants... at least they having a go :grin: but it looked like a closed set-up so I just decided not to take it further at least got something for sitting at the lake
So today (Tuesday) I will do the same as I said before maybe something might happen - who knows
Ok - since there is no way really to know who is serious let set some pointers - so read carefully :small-print:
There is allot of ducks so naturally allot of feathers so get out of your car walk to the lake pick up a feather of a duck and go sit somewhere with the feather in your hand this way when someone walk by they know you are interested to give it a go - even just walk by and say hallo would be nice too.
So one feather means you looking for a guy :spit:
Two feather means you looking for a girl/Lady/woman
Three feathers mean you dont mind if it a guy or girl or both 
I think the most futher Lapa is no 18 almost near the golf club - I see some cars always standing there under the tree - but no reaction :confused:
Ok - since there is no way really to know who is serious let set some pointers - so read carefully :small-print:
There is allot of ducks so naturally allot of feathers so get out of your car walk to the lake pick up a feather of a duck and go sit somewhere with the feather in your hand this way when someone walk by they know you are interested to give it a go - even just walk by and say hallo would be nice too.
So one feather means you looking for a guy :spit:
Two feather means you looking for a girl/Lady/woman
Three feathers mean you dont mind if it a guy or girl or both
I think the most futher Lapa is no 18 almost near the golf club - I see some cars always standing there under the tree - but no reaction :confused: 